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    Default The snap gets reversed (mcu)

    What if when Thanos snaps in infinity war, everyone who survived got reversed. So instead of Tony, Cap and the rest, Doctor Strange, Starlord and Spiderman survived. Could they bring everyone back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmazilla View Post
    What if when Thanos snaps in infinity war, everyone who survived got reversed. So instead of Tony, Cap and the rest, Doctor Strange, Starlord and Spiderman survived. Could they bring everyone back?
    No, without Ant Man the plan would never have worked since Pym & Crew wouldn't have learned Time Travel was possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    No, without Ant Man the plan would never have worked since Pym & Crew wouldn't have learned Time Travel was possible.
    I thought part of the whole thing was that Ant Man was in the quantum realm and thus was exempt from the snap?

    That said, without Tony to figure out time travel. I'm not sure this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    I thought part of the whole thing was that Ant Man was in the quantum realm and thus was exempt from the snap?
    Nah, that's specifically been clarified as not being the case. He was just part of the 50% who weren't randomly selected to no longer exist.

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    That said, without Tony to figure out time travel. I'm not sure this works.
    Probably, but I'd like to put forward some very key facts - starting with the fact that Hank Pym would still be alive. As would Janet. Perhaps, with his genius, and her SURELY knowing something about time operating differently in the Quantum Realm, they could at least come up with the idea for time travel.

    Then, consider Doctor Strange's power, Scarlet Witch's power, Shuri's genius etc - I think there'd be a chance.

    For starters, Doctor Strange would have seen a bunch of different futures in this scenario. This would have created millions of outcomes that wouldn't have been shown to him in Infinity War. One of THOSE futures might have unearthed the key to defeating Thanos.

    Scarlet Witch's rage might have eventually unleashed new reality-warping powers that we haven't yet seen.

    Shuri is more intelligent than Tony Stark, apparently. No reason why she couldn't come up with the same time travel tech that he did.

    With Scarlet Witch and Shuri alive, efforts might have been made to revive Vision sans the Mind Stone. Vision was created using elements of both Tony Stark and Bruce Banner's minds - two people who created time machines. Who's to say Vision couldn't have helped to make one?

    Nick Fury would be alive. Who knows what kind of contingencies he had in place for apocalyptic scenarios like this?

    Erik Selvig would still be alive. He's a genius who could certainly lend his mind to the cause.

    I think they'd succeed in undoing it.

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    Didn't know that about Ant Man, good to know.

    And I'll admit I had forgotten about Shuri. She could do it so in which case things should go alright.

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    I think the combination of Pym/Janet/Hope + Shuri + full cooperation with Wakanda and their tech (since T'challa is alive), I think they would eventually figured it out.

    So assuming they figure that out, that is one obstacle gone.

    So next, that makes the "time heist" the next obstacle. One good thing about Pym being alive is that they have unlimited access to pym particles, which means the time heist wouldn't be as scary because theoretically, they can just keep going back into time if they mess up.

    Strange goes to TAO and simply asks for the stone. That one is easy.

    Tesseract isn't a problem because there are multiple points to take it throughout history.

    The Sceptor is a problem. The reverse snap means all the OG dudes are gone. BUT, SW knows where it is at thanks to AoU, so she probably steals it why Strucker as it.

    Star Lord knows that one is on Morag since he took it, that one is easy.

    I can't think of anyone that knows that the Aether was on Asgard. Thor told the Guardians that it was with the collector in the beginning of IW. So I guess they could steal it from the Collector if Star Lord remembers.

    So now you have to think of a duo to go to Vormir that "love" each other enough to sacrifice one of them. Most obvious candidates would seem to be Hank/Janet, Hank/Hope, Janet/Hope, Scott/Hope, T'challa/Shuri. All those combinations seem crazy dark (the antman crew just got back together lol) or not gonna happen (too much box office $$$$$$$ in Wakanda duo). Maybe some stupid "Drax is so dumb he loves mantis" crap might work and he jumps to see his family again? Maybe Drax loves the "guardians" because they are his new family and he jumps instead of SL.

    So you have the stones... next big problem is... who the hell can snap? All the big guns are gone... Hulk, Thor, Captain Marvel, even Valkryie.

    Stark was able to do it as a human with a special suit to absorb some of the stuff BUT even then, what he did scale wise (destroy thanos army) was absolutely nothing compared to bringing everyone back without messing with the last five years.

    Can a human even pull something on that scale off without blowing up before its done?
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