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    Liked both May and the kid. Disliked the John Wick cosplayer, hopefully my man Peter will appear eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centrions View Post
    Lost an arm, lost his wife, being super edgy to his kid. You know he's an eyepatch away from being called "Punished Venom Spider-Man"
    But would he be using the symbiote if he reached that point or he'd be using the "Venom" in the name just because?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob/.schoonover View Post
    I try not to hope for too much out of archival collections runs. I kind of doubt we'll get all the way through Mayday's first series. But I'd get the other three complete collections (2 for ASG, 1 for SSG), too.
    Maybe. Guess we'll have to see. Suppose you could track down older copies online if they don't do everything.
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    There's a few interesting things set up for the story and I get that the father/son writing team wanted to do a father/son story. But I really hate that they had to kill Mary Jane as an excuse to get this emotional reaction from Peter and have her serve as some inspiring figure for Peter and Ben rather than an actual character (which is particularly annoying since the promotional material made it seem like MJ would have a more active role in the story rather than this passive dead mommy role for the angsting male characters). Maybe she'll get revived or something down the line, but as far as I'm concerned the story has already earned its refrigerator mark.

    The art is really nice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    ...But I really hate that they had to kill Mary Jane as an excuse to get this emotional reaction from Peter and have her serve as some inspiring figure for Peter and Ben rather than an actual character (which is particularly annoying since the promotional material made it seem like MJ would have a more active role in the story rather than this passive dead mommy role for the angsting male characters). Maybe she'll get revived or something down the line, but as far as I'm concerned the story has already earned its refrigerator mark...
    True enough, you'd think writers and editorial would want to avoid the use of this disgusting trope in modern times (female characters being reduced to nothing more than motivation for male ones in the worst possible way) guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    True enough, you'd think writers and editorial would want to avoid the use of this disgusting trope in modern times (female characters being reduced to nothing more than motivation for male ones in the worst possible way) guess not.
    some things never change
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    some things never change
    *sigh* sad but true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    True enough, you'd think writers and editorial would want to avoid the use of this disgusting trope in modern times (female characters being reduced to nothing more than motivation for male ones in the worst possible way) guess not.
    I'm going to say something incredibly controversial. Read at your own risk.

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    Would you prefer if they killed off Aunt May instead?
    end of spoilers

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCN24454 View Post
    I'm going to say something incredibly controversial. Read at your own risk.

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    Would you prefer if they killed off Aunt May instead?
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    I'd prefer neither died but if I had to pick one Aunt May would be my choice. She is older and has a less direct connection to the son and has historically lacked agency of any sort, unlike MJ.
    end of spoilers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
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    I'd prefer neither died but if I had to pick one Aunt May would be my choice. She is older and has a less direct connection to the son and has historically lacked agency of any sort, unlike MJ.
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    Wait a minute...what? So, because she has little agency, she should die? You know that sounds kind of f***ed up, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSlingWonder View Post
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    Wait a minute...what? So, because she has little agency, she should die? You know that sounds kind of f***ed up, right?
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    I sure do. I said I'd prefer neither died but if I had to pick one Aunt May would be it for the reasons I've outlined. I suspect the user who asked the question was baiting me into a response. I decided to heck with it I'll outline my reasoning thus making my choice clear. I've said I see little value in preserving Aunt May the character in past posts and I'm not a hypocrite (I hate hypocrites more than anything else). I maintain my earlier stance harash as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
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    I sure do. I said I'd prefer neither died but if I had to pick one Aunt May would be it for the reasons I've outlined. I suspect the user who asked the question was baiting me into a response. I decided to heck with it I'll outline my reasoning thus making my choice clear. I've said I see little value in preserving Aunt May the character in past posts and I'm not a hypocrite (I hate hypocrites more than anything else). I maintain my earlier stance harash as it is.
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    Alrighty then.

    Imma just exit stage right...

    This issue was a good start (for me at least)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSlingWonder View Post
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    Alrighty then.

    Imma just exit stage right...

    This issue was a good start (for me at least)
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    No need to do that. I'm not angry with you or anyone really. I'd prefer no female character dies to be motivation for a male character in comic books ever again, even Aunt May. It is a cheap, tired, outdated tactic. If I had written the book I would not have gone in such a direction. I feel JJ Abrams and his son want to tell a father/son story a mother figure would get in the way of this so they offed MJ and used her tragic death as motivation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
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    No need to do that. I'm not angry with you or anyone really. I'd prefer no female character dies to be motivation for a male character in comic books ever again, even Aunt May. It is a cheap, tired, outdated tactic. If I had written the book I would not have gone in such a direction. I feel JJ Abrams and his son want to tell a father/son story a mother figure would get in the way of this so they offed MJ and used her tragic death as motivation.
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    spoilers:
    I sent you a PM to continue the conversation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PCN24454 View Post
    I'm going to say something incredibly controversial. Read at your own risk.

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    Would you prefer if they killed off Aunt May instead?
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    iíd prefer if female characters were treated as equally important to the story as male characters and not killed off to create cheap drama that isnít earned
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