Agreed, this is far off topic
Agreed, this is far off topic
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Maybe we should start another thread about whether OMD infects every thread on the board?
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To echo Mets' point before, the marketing for this is so strange. I wonder if Marvel marketing believes* that the spider-progeny are sales-killers or something like that. AU stuff can sell well (Dark Knight III, DCeased, Injustice, you could argue those Starlin Thanos OHCs are AU, etc). Spidey sells fine. High profile creative teams often sell well. I'm kind of left confused and keep coming back to the kids being the problem (to marketing, not to me)
*I don't believe this, but that's pretty irrelevant to the discussion
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It would be easier if we didn't have posters making an issue by attacking fellow posters about their actual and presumed opinions.
Stuff like this for instance, is what sends stuff off-topic since a lot of posters are compelled to be defense, apologetic, and retaliatory. Boldness added by me.
In the case of the second post, the first paragraph by itself is fine. But the second one is unnecessary and stirring-stuff-up.
It's not like someone else brought OMD into this.
As for what the violet text connotes...I leave that all in your hands.
When you pull in a quote from Sean T. Collins to make your case, you know your case is sh*t.
Also, that quote is insane.
Never, ever, ever would Peter think "she's just a few years from dying anyway" about his Aunt. That is not the mind set of a hero. It's the mind set of a sick individual.
Someone who would make a statement like that is not fit to talk about "emotional realism" because they are very clearly devoid of empathy and feeling, not to mention a moral compass.
Sacrificing an actual life, a living, breathing life - no matter what the age of the person - in favor of a marital union, is not a choice any decent person would make.
If the choice is that one person continues to live but in exchange your marriage ceases to exist but yet your partner will still live on with the potential to still find happiness - maybe even potentially make their way back to you, given the realm of infinite possibilities that the future holds - that's an easy decision.
Peter would make that choice on behalf of a stranger's life, never mind on behalf of May's.
And the "but May was ok with dying" excuse is horrible as well. That's just the out a garbage person would use. That's the out of someone who would pull the life support plug themselves "She wanted this! She told me! Why are we waiting?"
As for "but what about the future? wouldn't May want Peter to be happy and have kids with MJ?"
Well, let's explain this one:
Even if May died, Peter and MJ would not go on to have a family. Because it's comics and Peter and MJ will perpetually be a childless couple in their mid to late 20s.
They will have children in as many AU's as Marvel wants to put out and maybe even in a projected 616 timeline but it's not going to happen in the main books. Never in the here and now. And that's true even if by chance Peter and MJ are ever officially married again. Taking May out of the book would not change that fact. You would just be taking out a major component of Spider-Man's mythology for no good reason. As important as MJ is to Spider-Man, and she is indeed important, ultimately May is the central figure in Spider-Man's supporting cast. She will always be the living reminder of his sense of responsibility. She cannot be permanently removed from his cast, by any means.
EDIT: I see we've moved on from the latest OMD debate prior to my post. Carry on.
Didn't we all just agree to move on? What is possessing you to misconstrue my valid posts for an after-the-bell attack, exactly?
First, let's show the context which you decided not to give above. My reply was in response to this post:
My post, primarily in reply to the bold section, was as follows:
What you see as "unnecessary" is a rebuttal to the poster's opinion of Aunt May. I don't see how me saying that Aunt May has value and that I've seen arguments position her in direct opposition to MJ isn't valid at all; it's in fact something you yourself immediately did.
Speaking of, I didn't mention OMD - but you did, when you decided to interjected yourself into this reply:
So, are you ready to actually drop this yet?
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Did they? I thought Sara did great work here also. I was just thinking about her and David Lafuente's 1-2 combo on Ultimate Spider-Man.
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I'm hooked enough to want to know where the series goes even if it feels like we've been over this ground several times before. I kind of like the idea that anything can happen here.
Here's my controversial opinion, I actually kind of like that for once we get to see an Aunt May care for her great nephew, since she's usually dead whenever most Parker kids are born, as well as with a portrayal that's pretty warm and understanding, contrasting the cold and distant Peter. Kind of reminds me of her Into The Spider-Verse iteration.
I will say, I'm not completely against the concept of this story, though I am still on the fence regarding how I feel regarding the bait-and-switch twist. Knowing Abrams, probably should've accepted there to be some kind of catch, and while a Peter and MJ team up from would've been really great to see, we aren't completely devoid of those kinds of stories at the moment, though I do understand if someone were to say the same thing regarding legacy stories, which this is copying from too. (And then there's also the fridging issue which is another can of worms)