Rambo: Last Blood

[Nine Crocodile]

How involved is Stallon in the writing. Cause hes very pro Mexican. Back in 2007 he bashed the idea of a border wall and said we should support illegal immigrants working in american because they are the back bone of our contry. Unless hes shifted his views I know he likes trump because he pardoned Jack Johnson but Kardashian worked with him too and she clearly doesn't support his views.

He is listed as a co-writer of the story and screenplay, and likely would have had a lot if input even if he wasn't.

Oddly enough, he and David Morrell evidently worked on an entirely different script that producers turned down in favor of the human trafficking story.

[Midvillian1322]

He is listed as a co-writer of the story and screenplay, and likely would have had a lot if input even if he wasn't.

Oddly enough, he and David Morrell evidently worked on an entirely different script that producers turned down in favor of the human trafficking story.

In that case Stallone isnt a trump supporter said he didnt vote for him and again has been very pro immigration and mexican. So yea I'm not saying the movie might have been ignorantly made into something that's problematic because I havent seen it. But Stalone doesnt share Trump ideology

[Jokerz79]

In that case Stallone isnt a trump supporter said he didnt vote for him and again has been very pro immigration and mexican. So yea I'm not saying the movie might have been ignorantly made into something that's problematic because I havent seen it. But Stalone doesnt share Trump ideology

Yeah this script was originally written for Rambo 4 and even after that film happened Stallone was shopping this script around in the late 00's so this films premise predates Trump by like a decade.

[Deathstroke]

I saw this movie on Sunday and kind of wished I hadn't decided to go to the theater to watch it. It was just insanely dopey. Considering what David Morrell has stated about the movie, I think the nail is in the coffin at long last.

[Beaubier]

I saw this movie on Sunday and kind of wished I hadn't decided to go to the theater to watch it. It was just insanely dopey. Considering what David Morrell has stated about the movie, I think the nail is in the coffin at long last.

I hope so, honestly. I walked away from this movie thinking that Stallone doesn’t have it in him to make a good Rambo movie again.

[Ilan Preskovsky]

I think it probably says something about the character of John Rambo that Stallone has not had the same success with resurrecting him as he has Rocky for a new millennium. Both franchises went from being small, almost arthouse in their first installment to something much more b-grade as they went along. The sheer charm of Rocky carried the entire franchise even at its most silly but the same really can't be said about Rambo.

Rambo in First Blood was not an action hero but a man broken by war who is forced to resort to violence for survival. It's a critique against violence, war, and unfettered machismo. The Rambo of the sequels IS an action hero and the films themselves are all about glorifying violence and bull-headed machismo.

Last Blood has taken that to such an extreme that it represents nothing less than the exact opposite of First Blood. It's pure, mean-spirited revenge porn and, whether its gross representations of Mexico and its extreme case of fridging are intentional political statements or not, they're still pretty morally repugnant. The worst thing about it, though, is that while Rocky leaned into its b-movie silliness and had a sense of humour about itself, First Blood is entirely lacking in humour, in irony, and in self-awareness. As such, rather than just being a dumb action flick, it's a dumb action flick with pretentions towards having something to say - which is really a problem since what it has to say is so thoroughly repulsive. I'm glad to hear that Stallone's own views are not actually mirrored by the film as I am a fan of the man's work overall but that doesn't change how objectionable the final product is.

[daBronzeBomma]

Last Blood had a production budget of $50M.

It has currently made $23M after 6 days of national release.

Does it make its break-even point of $50M domestic?

[Ilan Preskovsky]

Last Blood had a production budget of $50M.

It has currently made $23M after 6 days of national release.

Does it make its break-even point of $50M domestic?

From what I understand, films actually need to make double their budget to break even because of promotion and marketing. I don't think that it's impossible that it will, though, once the international box office money comes in.

[Joker]

Does Rambo do well overseas? It's such an American character.

[Godzilla2099]

Just got back from seeing it. We all loved it. The goriest of the bunch and it was really satisfying watching Rambo massacre people that really deserve it. I only wish he killed that one girl who lured his adopted daughter into that trap too.

My rankings:

1. Rambo (08)
2. Rambo Last Blood
3. Rambo 3
4. Rambo 2
1. Rambo First Blood

[RyanBlueThunder]

Does Rambo do well overseas? It's such an American character.

The last Rambo (2012) did about 1/3 domestic and 2/3 foreign box office:

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $42,754,105 37.8%
+ Foreign: $70,490,185 62.2%

[DanMad1977]

It didn't feel like a Rambo movie to me. It felt like any generic revenge thriller.

Rambo 4 had a very good and satisfying ending, but sadly Sly couldn't let him rest.

He even said that when Rambo 5 is successful enough there will be a sixth one...

[jetengine]

I think part of the issue is that Vietnam is so far away time wise, Stallones age and the feeling that these movies soley exist because Rambo refuses to get therapy

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

I think it probably says something about the character of John Rambo that Stallone has not had the same success with resurrecting him as he has Rocky for a new millennium. Both franchises went from being small, almost arthouse in their first installment to something much more b-grade as they went along. The sheer charm of Rocky carried the entire franchise even at its most silly but the same really can't be said about Rambo.

Rambo in First Blood was not an action hero but a man broken by war who is forced to resort to violence for survival. It's a critique against violence, war, and unfettered machismo. The Rambo of the sequels IS an action hero and the films themselves are all about glorifying violence and bull-headed machismo.

Last Blood has taken that to such an extreme that it represents nothing less than the exact opposite of First Blood. It's pure, mean-spirited revenge porn and, whether its gross representations of Mexico and its extreme case of fridging are intentional political statements or not, they're still pretty morally repugnant. The worst thing about it, though, is that while Rocky leaned into its b-movie silliness and had a sense of humour about itself, First Blood is entirely lacking in humour, in irony, and in self-awareness. As such, rather than just being a dumb action flick, it's a dumb action flick with pretentions towards having something to say - which is really a problem since what it has to say is so thoroughly repulsive. I'm glad to hear that Stallone's own views are not actually mirrored by the film as I am a fan of the man's work overall but that doesn't change how objectionable the final product is.

Here's the difference. Rocky was an underdog that you wanted to see succeed and have the American dream. Rambo was a flawed character who you knew couldn't and didn't really earn a happy ending. He was either going to be recluse or go out in a blaze of glory. He stagnates. We saw Rocky go from a bum loan shark, to a serious contender, to one of the greatest heavyweight champions, back down on financial hardhships, and thenback on his feet again and making something out of the next chapter of his life. Rambo's place after the first film was in jail. That was his arc.

[ChrisIII]

There's a deleted ending from the first film where Rambo makes Trautman shoot him (Similar to the novel although it looks like Rambo forces the trigger, leaving Trautman a bit shocked). Apparently it tested poorly so they went for the Rambo surrenders ending instead.


A small snippet of it does appear in the fourth film during Rambo's dream sequence.