The maximoff controversy

[Nazrel]

This is similar to DC fans refusing to budge on Billy Batson being Shazam now instead of Captain Marvel. Just like editorial there made their decision, Marvel kinda made theirs now. They're humans now—I guess. :/

A name change was forced on them, when they lost the legal battle over the name with Marvel... Shazam is still a stupid name given it's the word he uses to transform.

[gurkle]

I voted mutants, but not Magneto's children. Not being Magneto's children is on the whole good for them (I'm still bitter that the twins were not allowed to be in "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" because they were already playing the parts of Magneto's royal family in "Wolverine & the X-Men") and they don't need any more retcons of their parentage.

On the other hand if they're not mutants then it changes a lot of history, including the fact that the Avengers was the first Marvel Universe team to have open mutants with no secret identities.

I think a writer could actually do a good story, if they wanted to, examining how Wanda and Pietro are mutants in every way that counts so it doesn't really matter if they were born with the X-gene or not.

Of course the twins have not been in anything for the entire second half of 2019 so this is all kind of academic, and makes me believe the rumor that they're being saved for another Magneto family story in 2020.

[Snoop Dogg]

Shazam is cleaner and better branding.

I feel sorry for the fans/readers who lived through the Whizzer kids retcon, the Magneto children one and the AXIS one.

is this a boomer joke

[AHRNIHAL]

Why no one's talking about Wanda's children?

[CRaymond]

Lol, my feelings are written elsewhere, but I'll summarize: The Magnus family only worked in House of M, otherwise it's been trash for decades. Kill the mutation. Make them magic.

[Agent Z]

A name change was forced on them, when they lost the legal battle over the name with Marvel... Shazam is still a stupid name given it's the word he uses to transform.

Even before the name change, most people thought his name was Shazam anyway.

[Snoop Dogg]

Why no one's talking about Wanda's children?

Wanda's three children. Billy, Tommy, and Pietro. And her loving dad Cthon! No mutant relatives needed.

[gurkle]

Why no one's talking about Wanda's children?

Oh, sorry, I thought that "her" was a misprint for "his" (Magneto's).

Marvel has never actually confirmed that Wiccan and Speed are or are not mutants, so that may be the cause of the confusion.

[Triniking1234]

Why no one's talking about Wanda's children?

Billy and Speedy are reincarnated mutates.
Viv's a red XJ-9.

[Agent Z]

I voted mutants, but not Magneto's children. Not being Magneto's children is on the whole good for them (I'm still bitter that the twins were not allowed to be in "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" because they were already playing the parts of Magneto's royal family in "Wolverine & the X-Men") and they don't need any more retcons of their parentage.

On the other hand if they're not mutants then it changes a lot of history, including the fact that the Avengers was the first Marvel Universe team to have open mutants with no secret identities.

I think a writer could actually do a good story, if they wanted to, examining how Wanda and Pietro are mutants in every way that counts so it doesn't really matter if they were born with the X-gene or not.

Of course the twins have not been in anything for the entire second half of 2019 so this is all kind of academic, and makes me believe the rumor that they're being saved for another Magneto family story in 2020.

Beast and Wolverine were also Avengers and neither exactly has a secret identity.

[useridgoeshere]

I feel like there's nothing new to say about Magneto, Wanda and Pietro.

Let the retcon stay, keep Wanda and Pietro over on the Avengers side, and focus on Magneto and Lorna if you want a family drama story.

[Jackraow21]

I feel like there's nothing new to say about Magneto, Wanda and Pietro.

Let the retcon stay, keep Wanda and Pietro over on the Avengers side, and focus on Magneto and Lorna if you want a family drama story.

Agreed. Plus in the MCU films, which reach a lot more folks than the comics, they are not mutants. Leave the retcon as is.

[salarta]

I didn't even know that DC renamed Captain Marvel to Shazam, but if they did, it's pretty obvious that the main reason was to not fight over (or cause confusion among consumers) about which Captain Marvel.

The forced retcon on the twins doesn't have that issue. There's no objective reason to keep them out.

The primary potential of Wanda and Pietro as Magneto's kids as I see it isn't interaction with Magneto, but with Lorna. There's tons of untapped potential among them as siblings. Especially with Lorna and Wanda, given Lorna and Pietro at least got to spend time together on X-Factor in the 616 before the retcon.

Edit: Poll is skewed. There's no "they're mutants and should be more involved" option. The closest option simply says they should be more involved but doesn't say as mutants, potentially leaving default as "humans but more involvement."

[TimberWolf]

I find it hard to believe there haven't been mutants who've tried to assassinate Wanda for the pain she's caused the mutant community.

[Jackraow21]

Wolverine wanted to, or threatened to at one point. I think in Children’s Crusade.