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    Default Is All-Star Squadron No Longer Cannon?

    I've been enjoying the return of the Justice Society of America over in Snyder's JLA, but I couldn't help but notice that the last issue completely contradicts the events of the Roy Thomas penned All-Star Squadron issue 1-3, which for many years, even after Crisis and a few tweaks, was considered in-continuity for the Golden Age characters. Is DC eschewing a large part of the JSA's history or can it all be chalked up to a temporary time anomaly brought on by Perpetua?

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    Inbetween Perpetua's and Dr. Manhatten's meddling, and whatever wish Johnny Thunder made, it's tough to say what is canon from the Golden Age at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Garland View Post
    Inbetween Perpetua's and Dr. Manhatten's meddling, and whatever wish Johnny Thunder made, it's tough to say what is canon from the Golden Age at the moment.
    Especially since plans may well have changed. Geoff Johns, in Rebirth, called the JSA a "covert" organization. This no longer appears to be the case.

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    Right now, probably not. The JSA isn't remembered by the main heroes and characters of the main DC Earth. But a lot of multiversal shuffling is going on in different stories and what the situation is now may not be the situation next month.

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    Pretty sure All Star Squadron hasn't been cannon since Nu52, the same way JSA wasn't cannon either.
    That was the point where all previous continuity didn't count unless a writer re-introduced it.
    (Batman and GL mythology came the closest but wasn't identical).

    We learned in Doomsday Clock WHY the JSA disappeared... Dr Manhattan pushed Alan Scott's lantern out of reach, resulting in him dying on the scene and never founding the JSA. The fact that Alan is now alive and well as GL in 1942 when the JL travel there in JL#31 hints that these actions may be undone by the end of D-Clock #12...but that may or may not mean all previous Golden Age history is back in play. The JSA is clearly back but that may not mean things like the Young All-Stars, A.S.Squadron etc are all back.

    If the Squadron does come back into play, it could be altered from the version Roy Thomas wrote.

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    That's one way to look at it.
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    We're in a strange period of DC continuity in which people's memories of the past, present, and future have been altered and revised so many times that everything is canon. That said, what each character remembers varies wildly from person to person.

    Currently, the WW2 era of costumed heroes has been wiped from most people's memories, but Flash & GL just got zapped to 1941, which itself has been altered by time shenanigans, and met the previously forgotten Justice Society of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored at 3:00AM View Post

    Currently, the WW2 era of costumed heroes has been wiped from most people's memories, but Flash & GL just got zapped to 1941, which itself has been altered by time shenanigans, and met the previously forgotten Justice Society of America.
    Thank you. You've just reminded me that most of the JSA (via Roy Thomas) were taken out before Pearl Harbor. Given that they are there now (va Snyder), it lends credence to the idea that there may have been no A-SS as we recall it.

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    I doubt it's in continuity.
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    The people at DC seem to be very against Roy Thomas. They either completely ignore what he created, kill off some of his creations, or totally change everything about the few of his characters they still use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    The people at DC seem to be very against Roy Thomas. They either completely ignore what he created, kill off some of his creations, or totally change everything about the few of his characters they still use.
    It's a recurring theme with pretty almost all the past creators. Like they're afraid someone will take credit for making X character or team what they are today and diminish the importance of their current creators' efforts.
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    Happy to see Roy Thomas' All-Star Squadron prominently listed alongside the JSA and the Freedom Fighters for the first generation time sheet released today at the New York City Comic Con. This gives me hope.

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    It's getting restored.

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    Looks like they found a way to restore both Wonder Woman and Black Canary to the golden age teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Stone View Post
    Looks like they found a way to restore both Wonder Woman and Black Canary to the golden age teams.
    Not only restored, but from the looks of it they are both debuting earlier. Seriously earlier in BC's case.

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