HOUSE OF X [05] : Society *Spoilers*

[Jness]

Try and read other Marvel books, broads one's perspective and knowledge.

I hope this “broads” of perspective and knowledge one day allows you to not hate those who are different!!

[lordozone]

I don't mind mutants doing their own thing, it's just that this thing their doing is creepy and wrong.

That's what I like with Hickman writing: it's complex. Every revolution has a dark and creepy side.
The success of civil right movement is not only due to MLK, but also by movements like the Black Panther party and the Nation of Islam, who did a lot of great things but sometimes were also really extremists (racialists, mysoginists and violent), Ghandi was a pacifist but the movement "quit India" in 1942 was quite violent and gave the independance of India. The french revolution was at first a fight for justice and equality, but it's also the mass murders of "the terror" by Roberspierre Marat etc.
A revolution can't be perfect, and it will always need at the same time dreamers and fighters, who are never perfect. And it's interesting to see how the x-men will manage them to attain an equitable society.

[Rosebunse]

No one is saying they can have these great things, it's just that this whole set up is evil and ominous.

[Londo Bellian]

I want neither, I want Tohsaka Rin. She is a pragmatist who understands that sometimes you have to make hard choices even when you want to do good. That there is a path that lies between EMIYA and Emiya Shirou. You don't have to follow a rigid and unbending path.

My hat's off to you refuting me using the same reference pool. I really was concerned that Eastern Pop Culture fandom rarely pops up its head in these parts.

You wouldn't happen to be in the Beast's Lair forum too, are you?

On a random note, I can't help but recall a story thread from AlternateHistory.com, about 2015 Japan finding itself moved back in time to 1939 Earth. Among the many contacts established with America of the time, the Japanese offices of 2015 Disney (plus the operators of Tokyo Disney Resort) had a meeting with Walt himself. The man eventually bought into 2015!Disney's suggestion of acquiring Timely Comics early, with the intent to jump-start the Marvel franchise. One condition however was that when the X-Men were (re-)introduced, their setting would be SEPARATE from the continuity with the rest. (Captain America was problematic because with the Japan replacement, Pearl Harbor never happened and the isolationists - egged on secretly by a 2015 Marine who was a secret Neo-Nazi - are reinvigorated in preventing US entry into WWII).

I'm rambling now, but still, fun Marvel-related (tangentially) stuff.

[loke13]

No one is saying they can have these great things, it's just that this whole set up is evil and ominous.

I think that's reducing things to a sort of black and white degree when the situation is a bit more complex than that. And yeah it requires the leaders of this nation to have a bit more of a morally flexible code then ever before in order to stave off extinction. That might leave a sour taste in some folks mouths but nothing the X-Men have done I would classify as outright "evil".

[Rosebunse]

I think that's reducing things to a sort of black and white degree when the situation is a bit more complex than that. And yeah it requires the leaders of this nation to have a bit more of a morally flexible code then ever before in order to stave off extinction. That might leave a sour taste in some folks mouths but nothing the X-Men have done I would classify as outright "evil".

But the set up is pretty ominous, especially since the issue ends with Xavier making a deal with Apocalypse. That is how it ends.

[BroHomo]

Hey, where’s Wiz Kid?? He could help out a lot. He’d be a great person to work with Forge.

OH
MY
GooGoo!
I totally forgot about my mellow fellow Taki "Mitsubishi" Matsuya! He's definitely on Krakoa hitting on Trinary showing her his selfies with Beyoncé and Jay Z

Too bad Artie and Leech are with the FF now...

Yeah gonna be too bad for those race traitors in a few months...XTerminate4Permenate

Also is Rusty Collins still dead?

Too many redheads relax

And whatever happened to Skids?

Ugh waaaay too many blondes
No what Krakoa needs more of are some ethnic Mutant Dudes and ladies mixing it up making some Chimeras on their own
Hindsight and Wiz Kid Mashup!!!! Pleeeeeease!!! Have 2 East Asian mutants ever talked on panel?? Has every east Asian X-Man possessed Mutant powers to influence tech .. hmmmmm ok

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That's what I like with Hickman writing: it's complex. Every revolution has a dark and creepy side.
The success of civil right movement is not only due to MLK, but also by movements like the Black Panther party and the Nation of Islam, who did a lot of great things but sometimes were also really extremists (racialists, mysoginists and violent),

Ok I'm more than a lil buzzed leaving some stupid football game buuut let's just clear up some stuff... tbh I Know nothing about the nation of Islam buuuuuuuuut the Black Panther Party is not what you think)heard) been taught
https://historycollection.co/black-p...volutionaries/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffp...fac1276462/amp

[Killerbee911]

But the set up is pretty ominous, especially since the issue ends with Xavier making a deal with Apocalypse. That is how it ends.

Xavier and Apoccy made "deal" that sounds shady when you say it like that but say like that doesn't explain the explain the power dynamic. Xavier and Apoccy made a deal where Apoccy and all the villians bends the knee to Xavier. They are not in a partnership. To come on Krakoa means to accept their rules and leadership.

[Shreene]

Mystique is a killer & rapist & Wolverine sleeps with her. She's the ultimate Villain Sue who's never given a comeuppance for her crimes. Meanwhile Creed gets his ass beast easily by everyone. He's not a threat to any mutant on Krakoa. lol Just one of Mystique's lackies. Again, fans are putting more thought into Creed than Hickman is. I think people need to just chill on it. He's not much of a problem.

We didn't see him anywhere among the other mutants in this issue.

• It may be like X-Factor where he stays confined until they're desperate enough to need him.
• They may cut his head off & leave him dead for a while as punishment. lol Hell getting decapitated is a running gag for him nowadays.
• He may be in prison.
• Wolverine may have dealt with him.
• etc.

Lets wait & see. If his 16-year track record is anything to go on, he's not the least bit important. He won't be a character that turns any tides. He's a casual villain of the week like 9/10 of the Rogue Gallery. It's easy to deal with him. That may be why he's there. He can be kept in line easier by them than humans.

Who has Mystique raped?

[Silver Fang]

Who has Mystique raped?

Gambit & Logan, in addition to proudly stating that sex is a frequent weapon for her.

She had pix taken when she rapes Logan, then sent them to his girlfriend & laughed about it when noting she wasn't done screwing him yet.

[Killerbee911]

Who has Mystique raped?

Mystique consensual gets people to have sex with her under false pretenses. The sci fi makes a little more grey because she can catfish in real life.

[GrandEleven]

Mystique is a killer & rapist & Wolverine sleeps with her. She's the ultimate Villain Sue who's never given a comeuppance for her crimes.

Just highlighting the phrase "villian sue" because that's a new one for me and made me lol.

But yeah, she wears fan-favorite plot armor at times.

[Silver Fang]

Just highlighting the phrase "villian sue" because that's a new one for me and made me lol.

But yeah, she wears fan-favorite plot armor at times.

Being a naked Rebecca Romijin raised her stock.

[BroHomo]

Being a naked Rebecca Romijin raised her stock.

I'm gay and it raised my stock!?!!

[GrandEleven]

Being a naked Rebecca Romijin raised her stock.

Oh no doubt it certainly did. Add me to the list of those who's stock was raised.