HOUSE OF X [05] : Society *Spoilers*

[ExodusCloak]

I don't recall that... What title and issue might I find that scene in?



Quoted for Truth! I'm a US Navy vet and I can confirm this to be absolute fact!

First issue the Cuckoos reveal they're spies

[Shreene]

First issue the Cuckoos reveal they're spies

House of X #1 or Powers of X #1?

[ExodusCloak]

House of X #1 or Powers of X #1?

Hox 1

10char

[Shreene]

Hox 1

10char

Will read again, Thanks

[gambitxremy]

Let’s examine what Magneto said about Xavier’s offer. He said that mutants were the inheritors of the earth but that they were gifting it to man and keeping Krakoa. He said that on Krakoa ‘man is not welcome’ but nobody said “In no circumstances can a non mutant ever set foot on Krakoa”. Those two things are not equivalent.

Yeah the x-men are giving the earth to mankind

[JB]

First issue the Cuckoos reveal they're spies

Which is what prompted Magneto to threaten them. They need to set up their nation then maybe they can discuss tourism.

[Devaishwarya]

Your purposely being divisive -- remember these are comic books we're talking about here... Now, can baseline humans just show up on Krakoa as if going on vacation or not?

To answer that direct question referring to what's written in the book...no, They cannot just book a ticket and show up as if Krakoa is a vacation destination. But...that's no different than countries that you are not allowed to enter for vacation or otherwise without a visa, and passing through airport customs authority.

[Shreene]

To answer that direct question referring to what's written in the book...no, They cannot just book a ticket and show up as if Krakoa is a vacation destination. But...that's no different than countries that you are not allowed to enter for vacation or otherwise without a visa, and passing through airport customs authority.

So, then it's only fair the other nations of Earth do just the same to Krakoa, no?





Do the Krakoans now have a foothold in Jerusalem? It almost sounds like Erik is planning another attempt at the hostile takeover of Earth.

[kevinism]

88 pages of comments and most seem to be “THIS IS FINE”.

”Xavier” hides his face, the man that destroyed Angels and Scott’s life to some extent and is a known genocidal maniac “joins” the X-men, The X in Xmen now stands for Xerox. We now have boy scout Scott and teen Jean back and everyone else acts like an exaggerated caricature of themselves . But yeah. Morrison went too far but THIS IS FINE?

Whoa. Breathe bruh.

[Shreene]

Emesem does have a point...

[Devaishwarya]

Countries already do that to mutants, in principle.
He may sound like that...to you. He doesn't sound that way to me.
To me, he's just letting the humans...who were not all there in good faith mind you...where he/mutants stand going forward.
Besides, you don't go sincerely offering gifts if you are planning a hostile take over.
A peaceful take over attempt perhaps, but they'll be the dominant species in a few years anyway so...

[JB]

So, then it's only fair the other nations of Earth do just the same to Krakoa, no?

The mutants have learned that humans exterminate them in every life Moira has lived. Therefore humans are not allowed unless escorted by a mutant out of protection of the island's citizens. The other nations could do the same but just for a tit for tat response? Would seem petty to me.

I can understand if people don't like the premise of the story, that humans will exterminate the mutants at every turn, but that's the story we have.

[Hulkout42]

When you think about it...and knowing what Xavier and Magneto know from Moira's lives with respect to how machines eventually and ultimately turn on the humans in the end...the X-Men, by doing what they're doing now, are saving all of humanity from that future. They are on the path to being the Ultimate Heroes.

And all they have to do is keep the X-villains in line and punish them appropriately when (not if) they do something stupid, not do something that will arouse suspicion or fear from the whole of humanity like talking creepy to a family of super heroes who are raiseing the most powerful mutant on Earth and survive the retaliation from Orchis because they only settled for destroying a disembodied head and not the people who made said disembodied head...so yeah i guess they are on their way to be the Ultimate heroes, though do if i see one odd looking glas of Kool Aid being served i will raise hell about it!!!

[GrandEleven]

Let’s examine what Magneto said about Xavier’s offer. He said that mutants were the inheritors of the earth but that they were gifting it to man and keeping Krakoa. He said that on Krakoa ‘man is not welcome’ but nobody said “In no circumstances can a non mutant ever set foot on Krakoa”. Those two things are not equivalent.

You have to couple that with actions, however, where in that same scene he also made it clear that no ambassadors where going to set foot there, and this was after a "walk through" where they not only demonstrate that the transportation seeds only work on mutants, but that they deliberately posted signage in a foreign language.

Your right: exceptions can be made. But the ground rules are pretty clear: no humans aloud. They've actively engineered exclusion beyond mere protection.

[Shreene]

The mutants have learned that humans exterminate them in every life Moira has lived.

Not all humans... Moria aside that has always been the case -- Bolivar Trask, Church of Humanity, and The Friends of Humanity readily come to mind... Fanatical fringe groups that are no different than the KKK, Neo Nazis, or the Skinheads -- none represent all of baseline humans as a whole.

Therefore humans are not allowed unless escorted by a mutant out of protection of the island's citizens. The other nations could do the same but just for a tit for tat response? Would seem petty to me.

Then we won't see Mutants teleporting into any country that doesn't want them there there, huh?