HOUSE OF X [05] : Society *Spoilers*

[MutantHipster]

A couple things I was thinking:

1. The 5 starting to become a sort of "hive mind" after using their powers together kind of not so implicitly links it to the whole Phalanx thing imo.


2. The resurrection scene and Storm gave a big cult-y, creepy vibe. I like that Hickman stated multiple times that the soul is the same so we will avoid months of "are they the real deal" conspiracy theories on this board lol. And he also took into account to possibility of duplicates which is nice.


3. I like that it set up X-Force and Marauders. Pretty sure the Marauders will be shipping the drugs under Emma's founding and diplomatic coverage. I also liked how she and Charles interacted with each other.


4. I know they are all united under Krakoa now but I can't see people like Selene or Emplate either being accepted so easily or being kept in check with just a promise of a mutant land. Emplate freaking feeds on mutants and Selene is as shady as they come. I wonder if they have some sort of police force on the island.


5. There was a lot of talk about why Moira married Joseph in this life, and I think that she knew that it would produce Proteus and that they could use him for resurrection (maybe she did not foreshadow him needing a body and going crazy).

6. Sync is back ☺️

I think since Krakoa is alive, it has built in defenses, vines, snares, trees that grage you if you act up. Plus a team of enforcers probably.

[ExodusCloak]

Also Storm is like the Priestess of this cult

[cranger]

But that is how always has been done. The best x-men writers have always been the ones to build new things using continuity. At some points in the nineties plot points were rutinely introduced without a full story in mind. The Summers brother storyline, for example. Then someone would come and try to make some sense of them.

Abandoned plot lines are fair game. I don't mind minor slants on old stories either. But while Deadly Genesis picked up that Summers brother story and added something new with it, it also went and ruined Xavier and effectively any old stories about him.

[Tycon]

So basically they've just made comic book death even MORE meaningless than it already is?

It already was. That was the whole point of Rosencanny.

This issue (and every issue really) just makes me more certain this isn't happening in the 616. It's way too big of a change that won't be reflected in other books. I could be wrong, but I kinda hope I'm not.

It’s already being reflected in the books. Havok, Vulcan, Chamber, Wolfsbane, Sunspot, and Multiple Man are confirmed in the Dawn of X books.

If this isn’t undone it’s totally killed this series for me. Nothing they did brought these people’s souls back. Copying something isn’t recreating the original it’s just replacing it. A copy of your brain waves or pathways isn’t saving you it’s just making a copy.

So literally everyone you’ve been reading about since 2015 is a copy since they all died in Secret Wars.

[Hi-Fi]

Also Storm is like the Priestess of this cult

Just a placeholder 'til Zaladane gets there.

[Nazrel]

Says who? A soul is just a made up thing anyway. It can conform to whatever rules a writer wants to apply to it.

I have not read the story, but does the possibility of multiple existing concurrently exist?

If so, then no they are not the same, they are distinct entities, that happen to have the same memories, personality, and sense of continuity with the originals. It is merely duplication, not transmigration, which means something in a world where souls are objectively confirmable things. (and even in a world where it isn't it's still a concern, you die, you're gone, something like you lives on.)

[cranger]

So literally everyone you’ve been reading about since 2015 is a copy since they all died in Secret Wars.

I've always thought that way but since I never actually read SW I could pretend it didn't happen.

[ThePhoenix]

If this isn’t undone it’s totally killed this series for me. Nothing they did brought these people’s souls back. Copying something isn’t recreating the original it’s just replacing it. A copy of your brain waves or pathways isn’t saving you it’s just making a copy.

Then when Ben Reily which he came back with cloning and Death confirmed that he had the original Soul makes Death a foolish abstract?

[ExodusCloak]

Waiting for call me Alex to show up. The greatest threat to this mutant society

[jwatson]

Also Storm is like the Priestess of this cult

Perfect way to put it.

[cranger]

Then when Ben Reily which he came back with cloning and Death confirmed that he had the original Soul makes Death a foolish abstract?

You argue some minor point in some other comic that people can either buy into or not depending on if they really want to read about Ben Reilly. It has not impact whatsoever to someone reading the X-Men who might be invested in these characters. Everyone is going to respond differently and no it won't have to be consistent or provable.

[Ororo101]

https://twitter.com/ororo101/status/...395133440?s=21

Great reference that Hickman snuck into HoX today from the Inferno era. Storm and Jean will always be my favorite friendship/sisterhood.

[Leirus]

Abandoned plot lines are fair game. I don't mind minor slants on old stories either. But while Deadly Genesis picked up that Summers brother story and added something new with it, it also went and ruined Xavier and effectively any old stories about him.

Yeah, that is why I said good writers. Like Carey, for example or Peter David, who took the mess that was Polaris bio and made it into something manageable. I do not see this as harmful. For example, if Limbo was always a demonic half of Krakoa that is a new slant, but it does not change or diminish anything abour Inferno or Illyana as a character.
Same goes for the Phalanx thing.

[Havok83]

So X-Baby Alex is gonna be an Eva Bell blunder?

[Viteh]

https://twitter.com/ororo101/status/...395133440?s=21

Great reference that Hickman snuck into HoX today from the Inferno era. Storm and Jean will always be my favorite friendship/sisterhood.

Oh wow, that's really cool