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    Default So.... Johnny Storm is definitely bi right?

    Thought I'd bring this topic back.


    I mean come on...

    Context: Namor changes from his more conservative costume back to hi skimpy trunks and Johnny has this reaction -





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    A) This
    B) QFT
    C) What they said
    D) All of the above

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    There's also this from Dark Reign: Zodiac



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    Then there's the thing with Daken...





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    that's like asking if Northstar is gay. where's the debate?

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    To be fair, did Iceman look like he was gay before he came out? If he wasn't dropping hints and Johnny was, well, then it must be true about Johnny, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    To be fair, did Iceman look like he was gay before he came out? If he wasn't dropping hints and Johnny was, well, then it must be true about Johnny, right?
    Bobby has always seemed not-straight to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    Then there's the thing with Daken...





    That really isn't strong enough proof that Marvel editorial agreed with her implications. Her tweet would be more definitive if she said that Tom B agreed that we could do this. You'd have a hard time convincing me that TPTB at Marvel would make that drastic a change to a legacy character created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.

    She's only admitting to creating sexual tension. Where's the scene where they are actually admitting they've been intimate? And as others have pointed out, Dakken is a very poor candidate to argue for this change due to the nature of his powers. Any writer can easily negate her claim by bringing that up.

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    Like Johnny didn’t know that Lyja was really a male Skrull the whole time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARkadelphia View Post
    Like Johnny didn’t know that Lyja was really a male Skrull the whole time...
    You have any pics to prove that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    That really isn't strong enough proof that Marvel editorial agreed with her implications. Her tweet would be more definitive if she said that Tom B agreed that we could do this. You'd have a hard time convincing me that TPTB at Marvel would make that drastic a change to a legacy character created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.

    She's only admitting to creating sexual tension. Where's the scene where they are actually admitting they've been intimate? And as others have pointed out, Dakken is a very poor candidate to argue for this change due to the nature of his powers. Any writer can easily negate her claim by bringing that up.
    To add to that Daken is known for using his Pheromone powers to get what he wants. Whether that be attention, sex, status, or anything else. Johnny's and the FF's whole relationship with Daken could be entirely false. Based on the odd way that story in particular was written its not to far off to call shenanigans or write it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonsChi View Post
    To add to that Daken is known for using his powers Pheromone powers to get want he wants. Whether that be attention, sex, status, or anything else. Johnny's and the FF's whole relationship with Daken could be entirely false. Based on the odd way that story in particular was written its not to far off to call shenanigans or write it off.
    I'd be inclined to think that, writer's wishes aside, A) they didn't bang, and B) Johnny is well aware of Daken's pheremones, and is already horny all the time anyway (so *that* certainly didn't change anything!), but is also able to boost his internal temperature well into the thousands while keeping his skin a human-normal (so the relatively fragile molecules that are pheremones would break apart and have no effect on him, but you couldn't even tell by touching his skin, or viewing him with an IR scope, since he's containing the heat entirely within himself, which is well within the scope of his powers).

    I'm pretty sure the *last* thing even a ship-happy writer wants to throw in to mix is the notion that Daken basically raped Johnny (by using his powers to roofie him and dodge consent).

    Quote Originally Posted by ARkadelphia View Post
    Like Johnny didn’t know that Lyja was really a male Skrull the whole time...
    Who even knows if Skrulls have genders in the same way we (generally) do, or just straight-up choose them (or get assigned them, based on status or role or whatever).

    It is interesting that so many rank and file 'warrior' or worker Skrull appear as male, and the occasional females tend to be leaders like Veranke or Princess Anele, but that's not a consistent thing either.
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