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    uhh... yes

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    johnny and some rando = zzz...

    johnny and dorrie evans = "I have awoken"

    johnny and pete = hnnnnnnnng

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    uhh... yes
    Agreed. Johnny's bi as hell.

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    Makes me wonder... what kind of scans would make people say.

    "Oh... I guess we were wrong"

    or....

    Nope "That guys definitely straight as an arrow"

    Once they start slash-fic'ing.

    I mean... I have a feeling even if Johnny Comes out: Straight.

    And says...
    "I'm comfortable with my sexuality. So I can clown around. You got me all wrong there, Northstar. There's literally NEVER been I guy I've been attracted too.... okay Daken, but REED tells me Daken has Starfox's power. Compulsion. Poison. Rape.
    So... you know... not gonna happen, buddy. That being said, Aurora, single?"

    and I "FEEEL" like even if the writer put a bow on it like that? Its hard to fight the Annexation.

    Like how Iceman wasn't gay. It was actually an observation about Val Kilmer "ICEMAN" from topgun that was gay. But... time does funny things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_v View Post
    And says...
    "I'm comfortable with my sexuality. So I can clown around. You got me all wrong there, Northstar. There's literally NEVER been I guy I've been attracted too.... okay Daken, but REED tells me Daken has Starfox's power. Compulsion. Poison. Rape.
    So... you know... not gonna happen, buddy. That being said, Aurora, single?"
    Trying that hard comes off as kind of phobic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_v View Post
    Like how Iceman wasn't gay. It was actually an observation about Val Kilmer "ICEMAN" from topgun that was gay. But... time does funny things.
    Iceman's always been gay, we just never got Marvel to admit for the longest time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_v View Post
    Like how Iceman wasn't gay. It was actually an observation about Val Kilmer "ICEMAN" from topgun that was gay. But... time does funny things.
    thought it was Family Guy that started this rumor.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nhesX-8DXo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
    thought it was Family Guy that started this rumor.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nhesX-8DXo
    Definitely wasn't Family Guy. I don't remember there ever being a rumour until that issue of X-Men in the early-90s where Emma makes a comment about him being a decorator. But Family Guy was just running with the rumour that had been rampant in fandom for years.

    I still think he's straight, but it doesn't matter now.
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    Trying that hard comes off as kind of phobic.
    Thats kind of my point. . . if someone comes out and just says

    "No. I'm not Bi. Like at all. Like Ever."

    Then its phobic. *cue eyroll* but if its left to speculation you get people saying "B..b..but XyZ coment out of thousands of thought bubbles...."
    So its a null state.

    Schrodinger's Sexuality.

    thought it was Family Guy that started this rumor.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nhesX-8DXo

    This is legit how screwed up that situation is. Check it.

    People don't remember top gun, but Top Gun is ... its a homoerotic masterpiece. Its the weirdest thing. While it was the biggest blockbuster of its time...

    It is in many ways. *sigh* A gay love story.

    Spiderman and his amazing friends came out in 83, (I watched it); Top Gun in 86' and yes people roasted it quite a bit...

    MOSTLY because of that volleyball scene but a LOT of other things to be honest.

    What happened is a game of telephone leading up to

    1. In top gun... Tom Cruise, "Maverick" and Val Kilmer "Iceman" are totally gay for each other.
    2. Maverick and Iceman are totally gay for each other! "From top gun? Really?"
    3. Maverick and Iceman are totally gay. "What? Iceman is gay? Spider-mans Amazing friends?"
    4. Did you know Iceman was totally gay?
    5. Oh yeah I remember that cartoon? Iceman never did date that fire girl did he?!

    6. Iceman is gay.

    and everone kept hearing that soo...

    In the 90's Emma took over Bobbys body... made that comment.... I laughed becayse he had the wrong Iceman.

    In the 2000s' Seth McFarland Made that joke... and NO ONE gobbling up pop culture today even "REMEMBER'S" top gun.

    It just stuck.

    Its not that I'm "phobic" or a "tryhard" I was just alive and immersed in pop-culture the whole time
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    He should hook up with Iceman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_v View Post
    Thats kind of my point. . . if someone comes out and just says "No. I'm not Bi. Like at all. Like Ever."

    Then its phobic? but if its left to speculation you get people saying "B..b..but XyZ" so its a null state.

    Schrodinger's Sexuality.
    No. Saying he's not bi is not phobic. The way you said it there was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scourge View Post
    No. Saying he's not bi is not phobic. The way you said it there was.
    Oh? I misunderstood you. You're saying

    "I'M" trying hard and "I"M phobic.
    Well....
    1. I was using it as an example. Not MY WORDS as an author theoretically:

    How far would someone have to go to say: No this characters is straight. Especially after "Subtext is detected!" *alarms sound*
    That train just gets rolling and they take 10 scenes from 1000's of issues and start the push.
    So when do people say "Nope we were wrong?" seems pretty rare.
    ...And yes clearly were a writer to try that hard people would be irked.

    But... thats literally Daken and Starfoxes powerset, my man. That type of sexual compulsion is pretty poisonous. I'm pretty sure it universally agreed.

    2. I ... I... couldn't really care less.

    Being Middleaged AND Black ANNND from the south. I've been called every slur you can think of just walking to school, in the morning.
    I'll file that alphabetically some between " El Chongo" and "Nerdy *Alliteration*", Laugh at you... and point to my signature.

    Laterz...

    *that being said I have the print run of Infiniti.inc. Ironically... Obsidian was like... the first gay character I noticed and was something that seemed
    organic, well written and didn't need subtext to get there. Maybe because Obsidian didn't have as much history as Johnny and Bobby and it was what it was.
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    Not only was it never implied or said that Daken used his pheromones on Johnny, but Johnny just saying: “Yeah, I’m straight.” is probably how you do it without overdoing it and sounding homophobic.

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    No, he's not.
    #EmmaWasRight

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonsChi View Post
    Also, not sure why he needs to have his sexual orientation switch when currently the LGBT community is the most represented minority group at marvel.
    Today in "Not to sound homophobic but..."
    Last edited by Holt; 09-19-2019 at 11:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_v View Post
    Oh? I misunderstood you. You're saying

    "I'M" trying hard and "I"M phobic.
    Didn't say you. Said that example was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Not only was it never implied or said that Daken used his pheromones on Johnny, but Johnny just saying: “Yeah, I’m straight.” is probably how you do it without overdoing it and sounding homophobic.
    Kind of wish there was some kind of on page indicator for when characters like Daken were using pheromone powers. Like how Wallflower had sometimes.
    Last edited by scourge; 09-19-2019 at 11:23 AM.

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