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    Default Black History Month - List your favourite Black villains!

    We already have a thread asking for people's favourite black Marvel heroes, so I thought we could do the same for the bad guys! Who are your favourite black super-villains? Which ones do you think deserve more exposure or further development? I expect there may be some overlap between the heroes and villains lists, given some characters flip-flop between both sides...so are there any other black villains you'd like to see work towards redemption?

    I noticed with the heroes thread that some people were having trouble remembering all the black heroes when put on the spot, so here's a bunch of options to get everyone started. This is by no means a complete list of all of Marvel's black villains -- its just a sample.

    Moses Magnum
    Deadly Nightshade
    Nekra
    Black Talon
    Man-Ape
    Malice (Nakia)
    Killmonger
    Achebe
    Thunderball
    Impulse (from Psionex)
    Frenzy
    Tempo
    Knockout (of the Femme Fatales)
    Cottonmouth
    Centurius
    Beetle (Janice Lincoln)
    Tombstone
    Overdrive
    Rock Python
    Bushmaster
    Cardinal
    Midnight's Fire
    Flying Tiger
    Alex Wilder
    Ms. Quizzler

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    There can be only one: Moses Magnum.

    Too bad Marvel won't let him live up to his potential.

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    I fondly remember the Tyrone Cash version of Hulk from the Ultimate Universe. I thought he was cool as hell and criminally underused.
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    Off the top of my head, some of my all-time faves:

    • Frenzy
    • Calypso
    • Tempo
    • Double Trouble
    • Nightshade
    • Black Mariah
    • Cottonmouth
    • Bushmaster
    • Black Racer
    • Puff Adder
    • Knockout

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    Marvel2100 said it best! Moses Magnum could be the Doom of black villains, but weak unimaginative fanboy writers we have now prefer to recycle the same few bad guys, and that's only when they don't have heroes fighting each other.

    Honorable mention:

    Centurius
    Killmonger
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    Marvel2100 said it best! Moses Magnum could be the Doom of black villains, but weak unimaginative fanboy writers we have now prefer to recycle the same few bad guys, and that's only when they don't have heroes fighting each other.

    Honorable mention:

    Centurius
    Killmonger
    Moses Magnum will never work at Marvel now. He is a black villain doing bad things and his evil deeds can't be spun as "for the greater good" like Killmonger. He is a villain that enjoys being a villain and I think that makes a lot of people uncomfortable.
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    Assault & Battery
    Basenji
    Bloodshed
    Cardiac
    Coldfire
    Comanche
    Condor
    Deluge
    Doctor Sax
    Equinox
    Gamecock
    Hairbag
    Hardcore
    Hypno-Hustler
    Ill Billy
    Impala
    Lionfang
    Mangler
    Night Terror
    Pagan
    Quill (Resistants)
    Rem-Ram
    Scorcher
    Slyde
    Strongarm

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    Tombstone, Cottonmouth, Bushmaster, Nightshade, Calypso, Killmonger, Cardiac and Overdrive

    I'm intrigued with Moses Magnum, I'm going to have to check out some comics featuring him when I get the chance.

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    Tombstone
    Deluge
    Malice
    Prowler
    1610 Venom Dr. Conrad Marcus
    Fatale
    M'Baku
    Princess Zanda
    Alex Wilder
    Achebe
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    Edit 10 char
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    Alex Wilder
    Thunderball when he is written as a scientist
    Beetle
    Cardinal (what happened to him?)

    I want to say Cardiac, but I like him more when he is a anti-hero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Moses Magnum will never work at Marvel now. He is a black villain doing bad things and his evil deeds can't be spun as "for the greater good" like Killmonger. He is a villain that enjoys being a villain and I think that makes a lot of people uncomfortable.
    If this were true it would be such a missed opportunity for adding nuance to black characters in general. There's nothing wrong a bad guy being.....bad! Even if he's a black villain. Why are they not allowed to grand scaled villains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    If this were true it would be such a missed opportunity for adding nuance to black characters in general. There's nothing wrong a bad guy being.....bad! Even if he's a black villain. Why are they not allowed to grand scaled villains.
    DC sure is doing it with Black Manta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Tombstone, Cottonmouth, Bushmaster, Nightshade, Calypso, Killmonger, Cardiac and Overdrive

    I'm intrigued with Moses Magnum, I'm going to have to check out some comics featuring him when I get the chance.
    That's a solid list, especially given half of them made their debut or most notable appearances in a Spider-Man book. That said, my personal favorite is Cardiac for being more of an anti-villain who fights against perfectly legal but unjust and immoral corporate practices and policies that end up ruining or ending other people's lives but goes about it in an "extreme" way. (When I say "extreme," I mean it as the word is commonly defined, not in terms of 90s marketing.) Given how much more aware we are as a society these days of how utterly scummy behavior can be enabled by the law as manipulated and subverted by bad corporate actors . . . Cardiac was kind of ahead of his time.
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    For the ladies, Deadly Nightshade/ Tilda Johnson, Nekra, Frenzy and Tempo.

    For the gents, Tombstone, Overdrive, Midnight's Fire and the MCU version of Killmonger.

    Joanna Cargill / Frenzy is probably my absolute favorite, tho.

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