RUMOR: Young Avengers to Replace Champions

[Captain M]

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/09...ace-champions/

Discuss.

It's bleedingcool so it's likely correct given their track record regarding comicbook announcement rumors but you never know.

[Digifiend]

I think they've got their wires crossed here. Remember the Incoming teaser, which promised a titanic divide? Seems like the Champions split into two. One side, probably with the core trio, would still be the Champions. But some members (remember, there's 15 of them, not counting the mostly off-panel reinforcement roster) would join a new Young Avengers team.

So I think YA relaunching is true - but not in place of Champions.

[protege]

They just put dust on the champions; i’d hate to see her shuffled off to limbo again.

[Woozie]

Aren't most of the Young Avengers adults and all of the Champions not?

[Personamanx]

I could see it working if true. Don't know who I'd throw on the combined team but there's bound to be a combo out there that can sell a book. I suppose we'll have to wait.

Aren't most of the Young Avengers adults and all of the Champions not?

Not quite, but more or less. Outside of a few outliers the age difference wouldn't be more than High School students, and college students. Things could get weird, but it's not necessarily that odd.

[Beetle]

Aren't most of the Young Avengers adults and all of the Champions not?

Amadeus Cho and Victor Alvarez are both a lot older than the rest of the Champions, early 20s or so. Dust should be as well but it's hard to tell with mutants

[Digifiend]

Amadeus Cho and Victor Alvarez are both a lot older than the rest of the Champions, early 20s or so. Dust should be as well but it's hard to tell with mutants

Ammy's been stated to be 19. You're right that Power Man is probably the oldest member of the active roster (though Silk, who is Peter Parker's age, is on the reinforcement roster that never physically appeared). If Dust was 16 at the time of New X-Men Academy X, she's probably 18 now.

[Digifiend]

No, the Champions are 15-19 and the Young Avengers are 16-20, so they're roughly the same age.

I won't be surprised if Dust ends up back in the X-books. Patriot (Rayshaun Lucas) is definitely in danger since we now know Eli Bradley is usable again. If Zub's bucket list book turns out to be Alpha Flight I think he'll take Snowguard with him. So I wouldn't expect those three to be involved, whether the teams are merging or just being shuffled.

[Woozie]

No, the Champions are 15-19 and the Young Avengers are 16-20, so they're roughly the same age.

Eli the youngest, outside of Cassie, and even he's in college. It's definitely not a clean line between those groups.

[Hybrid]

Champions staying dead and Young Avengers coming back? Sounds good to me.

[Raye]

No, the Champions are 15-19 and the Young Avengers are 16-20, so they're roughly the same age.

I won't be surprised if Dust ends up back in the X-books. Patriot (Rayshaun Lucas) is definitely in danger since we now know Eli Bradley is usable again. If Zub's bucket list book turns out to be Alpha Flight I think he'll take Snowguard with him. So I wouldn't expect those three to be involved, whether the teams are merging or just being shuffled.

The Young Avengers are older than that. Kate turned 21 on panel in the last YA book, and that was before the Secret Wars time-skips, so she's 22 by now, with Billy, Tommy, America, Teddy etc likely being 20-21 themselves, leaning towards 21 for the twins at the very least since Billy was legally drinking alcohol shortly prior to War of the Realms. Kate was the oldest of the bunch, but not by a whole lot, Cassie aside, who is probably 17 or 18.

[Hybrid]

How the hell does aging even work in these universes? I remember Cassie conveniently getting a few years older as everyone else remained the same, just in time for YA. I guess the space-time continuum being made of tissue paper has certain effects.

[Digifiend]

The Young Avengers are older than that. Kate turned 21 on panel in the last YA book, and that was before the Secret Wars time-skips, so she's 22 by now, with Billy, Tommy, America, Teddy etc likely being 20-21 themselves, leaning towards 21 for the twins at the very least since Billy was legally drinking alcohol shortly prior to War of the Realms. Kate was the oldest of the bunch, but not by a whole lot, Cassie aside, who is probably 17 or 18.

Cassie is DEFINITELY 16. Scott said she was the same age as Nadia, 16, in the Ant-Man and the Wasp mini that ran immediately before the second Unstoppable Wasp volume. Since Cassie was 14 in the original Young Avengers, this means the rest of the team should also be two years older than they were then. Unfortunately, that would contradict any earlier references to anyone being 21. Someone in Avengers editorial apparently isn't doing their job properly.

[dreyga2000]

No, the Champions are 15-19 and the Young Avengers are 16-20, so they're roughly the same age.

I won't be surprised if Dust ends up back in the X-books. Patriot (Rayshaun Lucas) is definitely in danger since we now know Eli Bradley is usable again. If Zub's bucket list book turns out to be Alpha Flight I think he'll take Snowguard with him. So I wouldn't expect those three to be involved, whether the teams are merging or just being shuffled.

How do we know this??!!

[Digifiend]

Because they already HAVE used Eli again, in Marvel Comics #1000, as well as Isaiah Bradley in History of the Marvel Universe.