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    Default How would you retcon Donna's certain origin

    So far Donna and Diana don't interact and Donna is now just not tied to Diana at long. If you can fix this how would you?

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    Give her the Titans show origin. Diana saved her from the fire that killed her parents. Because comic book wise Diana couldn’t go back to Themyscaria until recently I’d have it so Diana prays to the gods and goddesses and promises to perform one task for them no matter what it is if they’ll teleport Donna to Themyscaria to be raised by the Amazons there. They do so and Donna grows up on Themyscaria until she comes of age and returns to Man’s World where she meets the other Teen Titans and joins them. There, simple, keeps Diana and Donna tied together and isn’t utterly freaking insane continuity wise.

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    It's crazy that DC had so many opportunities to fix Donna and yet with each new reboot they only made it worse. Just go back to the classic origin and say that the current nonsense is the fault of Dr Manhattan/Greek Gods/Titans/whoever

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    Donna is one of the easiest characters to fix.She's Wonder Woman's younger sister by adoption after WW saved her from a fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    Donna is one of the easiest characters to fix.She's Wonder Woman's younger sister by adoption after WW saved her from a fire.
    This and the other one for me works. No need to make it overly complicated. Just keep it simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Give her the Titans show origin. Diana saved her from the fire that killed her parents. Because comic book wise Diana couldn’t go back to Themyscaria until recently I’d have it so Diana prays to the gods and goddesses and promises to perform one task for them no matter what it is if they’ll teleport Donna to Themyscaria to be raised by the Amazons there. They do so and Donna grows up on Themyscaria until she comes of age and returns to Man’s World where she meets the other Teen Titans and joins them. There, simple, keeps Diana and Donna tied together and isn’t utterly freaking insane continuity wise.
    Then later Donna finds out her powers came from the Titans.

    #1 thing not to have is temporal paradoxes. Worst origin idea ever was for her to be some sort of time clone of WW.

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    The daughter of Hades and Cheetah, rescued from a housefire caused by Cheetah's escape portal, sent by Diana to be raised on Themyscira, teleports to Diana as a teenager, joins Teen Titans as Wonder Girl, abducted by Trigon, revealed to have psychic & magic powers, becomes Raven.

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    So does Wonder Woman rescue Donna from the fire a couple decades ago (meaning Diana has been active for some time) or more recently and (because Themyscira time is out of phase with Man's world) Donna becomes a teen seemingly overnight?

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    That's a question that goes beyond Diana, and to the overall DC timeline.

    The New 52's take on a too compressed timeline was arguably one of the real problems with it. Give Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and the other classic heroes ample time to establish their histories. And don't be afraid to publish stories set during those times either.
    «Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])

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    I think the "rescued from a fire" origin is the easiest, quickest, more direct way to handle Donna. I'm not sure why DC ever felt the need to screw with it, honestly.

    But, even though this is slightly more complicated and a lot more weird, I've always liked the original idea of Wonder Girl; it was just Diana as a teen. And because Themyscria is in other-dimensional space and Diana is a kinda-maybe-actual demigod/goddess, younger Diana could travel to her future to have adventures with her older self. I mean, as weird an origin as that is it's still far less convoluted than what we see with most of the X-Men.

    So if I got to write the "Donna" I really want to, that's what it'd be. Young Diana would travel to her future and become "Wonder Girl" under the fake name of "Donna Troy" just for fun. Remember those "flashback" stories Azzarello wrote during his run where young Diana would have adventures on the Island and deal with harpies and gods and whatever? I'd like to bring that kind of tone back to Donna; much more light hearted, much more fun, much less concerned with the pseudo-science of it all. It gives us a unique dynamic between hero and sidekick and unique stories you can tell with Donna. This does mean that readers aren't going to worry about Donna actually dying, since Diana's alive and well. But death is meaningless in comics anyway so I got zero problem taking this particular troupe off the board.

    I figure any problems that might crop up because of the time travel can be hand waved away with "we're dealing with gods; the science doesn't matter when reality-warping divine forces are having their fun."
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    How would I redo Donna: Make her like Diana of the new 52, but living amongst the Mortals and having her Moon goddess status as a child of the gods of the Moon. The Silver Age origins of Donna stays as well connecting her to Wonder Woman rescuing her from a fire that destroyed her family.

    She gains a fear of Fire due to that event that lasts a while. Thus keep her the same from here on out, but add a unique friendship with the Martian Manhunter as one of the few heroes besides Diana to understand Donna's outsider-ness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    So does Wonder Woman rescue Donna from the fire a couple decades ago (meaning Diana has been active for some time) or more recently and (because Themyscira time is out of phase with Man's world) Donna becomes a teen seemingly overnight?
    Donna could be a teen already when rescued. She doesn't need to be a baby or whatever. Also you could throw in an ominous foreshadowing thing where WW is amazed that Donna survived.

    Then you later find out that Donna is basically fireproof as part of being a demi-Titan.

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    If there is one element of superhero comics that I dislike (ok, I admit, there are plenty), it is the idea that everyone must have some special background.

    From the beginning, Wonder Woman has built on sources for her powers: Amazon training and blessings/ancestry. If Donna is a normal human being, she can give an example of what Amazon training can provide. Cassie can then be the example of the capabilities of a person of divine ancestry but without the specialised training. Diana of course has both.

    It keeps things simple by not introducing lots of elements into the backstory and gives a strong and easily understandable distinction between the capabilities of the three characters.
    «Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])

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    Probably an unpopular opinion but I like Donna's connection with the Titans. It gives Donna her own niche in the WW franchise. And I don't like her powers being granted via purple ray (I prefer it specifically as a healing device), so making her a demi-titan is my preferred origin for her. If I had my way I'd also have Cassie being a normal human without any divine relatives (and Diana with the clay origin ofc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Donna could be a teen already when rescued. She doesn't need to be a baby or whatever. Also you could throw in an ominous foreshadowing thing where WW is amazed that Donna survived.

    Then you later find out that Donna is basically fireproof as part of being a demi-Titan.
    The main problem I see with this is that it doesn't allow Donna much time with the other Amazons on Themyscira, to form a bond with them and become like a daughter to Hippolyta, before she becomes Wonder Girl and joins the Teen Titans.

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