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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    That's kind of my point. Indominus is strong enough to hurt itself. T-Rex is strong enough to hurt it as well. Edward is strong enough to hurt it and fast enough to never worry about being hurt in return.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    You keep saying this.

    The idea is that Edward is fast enough the dino won't get ahold of him, and strong enough to damage it, so at some point -- maybe quick, maybe not -- he's going to do enough damage to kill it.

    The idea is NOT that Edward kills it in the first second of the match.
    Yeah but it might be so unfair if I-Rex cannot endure or stand up against against Edward Cullen's physical attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    You mean this isn't far-fetched?
    Not with the speed disparity between Edward and I-Rex being what it is. No, it isn’t far-fetched. Edward would be a blur to I-Rex, and by the time I-Rex attacked where Edward was, Edward would have moved. At the same time, Edward’s attacks would be raining in too fast for I-Rex to react to avoid them. And since Edward has the raw damage output to hurt I-Rex, he’d be picking I-Rex apart while receiving no damage himself.

    Really, speed kills.

    (Somebody, PLEASE post the Pietro scan.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    Yeah but it might be so unfair if I-Rex cannot endure or stand up against Edward Cullen's physical attacks.
    Unfair? People are only predicting the results based on the comparative abilities of the two combatants in the Rumble you posted. It’s unbalanced by speed, yes. If you don’t want that, as it’s your thread, you have the perfect right to change the conditions of the Rumble to make it speed-equalised. Otherwise, the result is the result.

    The way we do things on Rumbles is to assess the outcome using the participants’ capabilities based on high-end feats consistent with the characters’ overall portrayal. In this case, both participants are portrayed as being similarly strong, but only one is portrayed as having serious superhuman speed. That makes the outcome pretty clear-cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Not with the speed disparity between Edward and I-Rex being what it is. No, it isn’t far-fetched. Edward would be a blur to I-Rex, and by the time I-Rex attacked where Edward was, Edward would have moved. At the same time, Edward’s attacks would be raining in too fast for I-Rex to react to avoid them. And since Edward has the raw damage output to hurt I-Rex, he’d be picking I-Rex apart while receiving no damage himself.

    Really, speed kills.

    (Somebody, PLEASE post the Pietro scan.)


    Unfair? People are only predicting the results based on the comparative abilities of the two combatants in the Rumble you posted. It’s unbalanced by speed, yes. If you don’t want that, as it’s your thread, you have the perfect right to change the conditions of the Rumble to make it speed-equalised. Otherwise, the result is the result.

    The way we do things on Rumbles is to assess the outcome using the participants’ capabilities based on high-end feats consistent with the characters’ overall portrayal. In this case, both participants are portrayed as being similarly strong, but only one is portrayed as having serious superhuman speed. That makes the outcome pretty clear-cut.
    So if Indominus Rex tries to endure Edward Cullen's attacks, then this sounds like the difference between speed kinda messed up on this match as that'd render the dinosaur vulnerable to the vampire's attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    So if Indominus Rex tries to endure Edward Cullen's attacks, then this sounds like the difference between speed kinda messed up on this match as that'd render the dinosaur vulnerable to the vampire's attacks.
    It doesn’t make the I-Rex any less resilient to Edward’s hits, but there’ll just be A LOT of unanswered hits, and eventually that will take its toll.

    But the net result is yes, the speed difference messes up the I-Rex hugely.

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    I'm genuinely a touch bewildered that this thread is four pages long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    Yeah but it might be so unfair if I-Rex cannot endure or stand up against against Edward Cullen's physical attacks.
    Fairness has nothing to do with 'who wins'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    I'm genuinely a touch bewildered that this thread is four pages long.
    You and me both...and here I am, still contributing.
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    I don’t know if it was a language / communication issue or if it was just that the penny was on a parachute, but ever so slowly it seems to have dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Fairness has nothing to do with 'who wins'.
    But i thought Indominus Rex should tougher while being bigger as compared to Edward Cullen & what i mean is that it might be unfair especially if Indominus Rex were to get killed right at the beginning of the match while being unable to counterattack.
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    Ok, I'm becoming genuinely confused at this thread now.

    Edward can hurt the dino based on his level of strength. Possibly badly. He blitz the dino. He won't get touched by it.

    Maybe it's unfair as a match up, but it is the match up you wanted us to answer. It has been answered pretty conclusively at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    Ok, I'm becoming genuinely confused at this thread now.

    Edward can hurt the dino based on his level of strength. Possibly badly. He blitz the dino. He won't get touched by it.

    Maybe it's unfair as a match up, but it is the match up you wanted us to answer. It has been answered pretty conclusively at this point.
    Actually I possibly wanted the match (expect the battle) to last a little longer (NOT win too fast) & a bit more even so couldn't Indominus Rex be able to stand up, survive or endure Edward Cullen's physical attacks due to being bigger and tougher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    Actually I possibly wanted the match (expect the battle) to last a little longer (NOT win too fast) & a bit more even so couldn't Indominus Rex be able to stand up, survive or endure Edward Cullen's physical attacks due to being bigger and tougher?
    No. He couldn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    Actually I possibly wanted the match (expect the battle) to last a little longer (NOT win too fast) & a bit more even so couldn't Indominus Rex be able to stand up, survive or endure Edward Cullen's physical attacks due to being bigger and tougher?
    being bigger and "tougher" isn't gonna stop edward in the long run. if ed was fighting, say juggernaut for example, it would be pretty much a stalemate. cain couldn't catch edward because he's nowhere near fast enough to tag him but on the flip, edward couldn't beat juggs due to his ridicules levels of durability and regen.

    but in this case, there is really nothing I-rex can do to stop edward from attacking him with impunity. it might take a while but edward will just wear him down and then finally kill him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    being bigger and "tougher" isn't gonna stop edward in the long run. if ed was fighting, say juggernaut for example, it would be pretty much a stalemate. cain couldn't catch edward because he's nowhere near fast enough to tag him but on the flip, edward couldn't beat juggs due to his ridicules levels of durability and regen.

    but in this case, there is really nothing I-rex can do to stop edward from attacking him with impunity. it might take a while but edward will just wear him down and then finally kill him.
    *pssstt*

    Probably a bad example. Cain could thunderclap the crap out Edward.

    Your general point stands though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    *pssstt*

    Probably a bad example. Cain could thunderclap the crap out Edward.

    Your general point stands though.
    i know. just picked a example of a really tough brick who isn't very fast. honestly, i forgot that cain could thunderclap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    But i thought Indominus Rex should tougher while being bigger as compared to Edward Cullen & what i mean is that it might be unfair especially if Indominus Rex were to get killed right at the beginning of the match while being unable to counterattack.
    Well, the Dino can TRY to counterattack. As noted a whole whack of times in this thread, the fight is going to last more than a second.

    The problem is that the counterattack, so to speak, isn't going to hit anything, due to Edward being a whole lot faster than the Dino.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    Actually I possibly wanted the match (expect the battle) to last a little longer (NOT win too fast) & a bit more even so couldn't Indominus Rex be able to stand up, survive or endure Edward Cullen's physical attacks due to being bigger and tougher?
    Sadly, what we want isn't necessarily what we get in a Rumble.

    And why would the Dino be able to endure Edward's attacks simply by being bigger? Tougher than the damage Edward can do, sure...IF it has the feats to show this. I mean, if you have feats for it being capable of withstanding stuff that shatters granite boulders, and withstanding these kinds of attacks when it really cannot do anything in return (due to the speed issue), then post the feats for discussion.

    But no such feats have been provided.
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