This episode was a waste of the 4th world.
I'm surprised that no one on this thread mentioned Dr. Psycho's role in all this, nor the fact that Clay Face and King Shark were apprehensive in all this, too. Whose to say that Psycho wasn't manipulating Harley from the beginning?
Darkseid was pretty perfect. Michael Ironside hasn't lost a beat .
Even Granny was pretty good. She was smacking Harley around until Pscyho cheated.
Psycho was definitely jumping on Harley's insecurities to make her act like a more legitimate and dangerous villain in his eyes.
finished Season 1 really enjoyed it. Like the gags they do with all the characters except Bane. The Dr Psycho cun* stuff had me on the floor laughing.
Who voices Frank? Sounds like J.B Smoove sometimes.
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Harley was acting extremely irrational and took things a bit far, I can kind of forgive her for not thinking her actions through because Harley is supposed to be a damaged person and just went through something emotional and confusing.
I don't love how they handled the 4th World (seems like Dr. Psycho could've easily taken out Granny Goodness?), but at least it was funny how Darkseid kept talking over Harley.
Barbara is very naive, and having met Harley, she doesn't see her as the typical Gotham crook. She has a lot of learning to do. No Man's Land is not a good time for her to make her debut as a vigilante!
I'd like to know the thought process behind this, especially where Kite-Man is concerned. It seems like they originally wanted it to look like Ivy is just slumming it when it comes to Kite-Man, and that's why she was so ashamed of hooking up with him at first. I expected her to gain more respect for herself and break up with him, but then she came to really care for him and accept his proposal. Maybe the idea all along was for Harley to have one-sided feelings for Ivy?
Despite the name of the episode, I was thinking that defeating Granny Goodness would put Harley in charge of the Furies.
Try telling that to all the innocent people she got killed...
I got the implication Psycho lost the last time he fought Granny. They basically had to cheat and take her by surprise.I don't love how they handled the 4th World (seems like Dr. Psycho could've easily taken out Granny Goodness?), but at least it was funny how Darkseid kept talking over Harley.
I guess it just surprises me because I'm used to Babs being a more stoic, black and white, type when it comes to this stuff. But at least debuting during No Man's Land has done wonders for her social media presence.Barbara is very naive, and having met Harley, she doesn't see her as the typical Gotham crook. She has a lot of learning to do. No Man's Land is not a good time for her to make her debut as a vigilante!
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I guess you can lean into her that way? Even without Joker she's generally a morally unscrupulous criminal who enjoys committing crimes, stealing, and hurting people, and in this version that was doubly-true because she was violent and foul-mouthed before she even met Joker. Harleen Quinzel was more of an act.
She just probably shouldn't be saying she has a line she won't cross compared to another villain after what she pulled in this episode. Even if she called it off, she still caused it.
Yeah, that was my main issue too.
I mean, on top of that, are we supposed to agree with Batgirl that Harley has some good in her just because she went after some villains for her own interests and things just happened to work out for people by her doing so? Well, aside from Freeze.
Harley is not a good person by any stretch of the imagination. She only really cares about Ivy to a selfless extent.