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    The Justice League in this show is only four members strong? Ivy said that the League is gone but it was only Superman, Wonder Woman, John Stewart and Flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    The Justice League in this show is only four members strong? Ivy said that the League is gone but it was only Superman, Wonder Woman, John Stewart and Flash.
    I think she was just saying in general since quite a few of the big hitters were trapped. Don't forget Batman nor Aquaman were trapped in the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    The Justice League in this show is only four members strong? Ivy said that the League is gone but it was only Superman, Wonder Woman, John Stewart and Flash.
    Quote Originally Posted by ComicJunkie21 View Post
    I think she was just saying in general since quite a few of the big hitters were trapped. Don't forget Batman nor Aquaman were trapped in the book.
    Zatanna is still active too, and she's probably the only one who could free the League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I honestly assumed the reason the League did that was not because of some preconceived glass ceiling but because of how dangerous Fables was, so they felt like that was the only way they could contain her. At least that was the case in the comics.

    I have a hard time buying a group with Wonder Woman on it partaking in sexist practices.
    Not necessarily. Studies have shown that men in positions of authority are more likely to elevate and educate men in lower stations than women. Men have a natural instinct for wanting to teach and pass on their knowledge. Women however, can be surprisingly cut throat, ESPECIALLY towards other women. going so far as to sabotage each other.
    That's why woman dominated professions tend to have higher turn over rates, and more 'Water cooler drama'.

    WW is at the top, and some secret part of her subconscious may purposely want to hold other women back, so that the thing that makes her special doesn't become a watermark anyone can achieve.


    PC Politics aside, all humans are awful. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatPerson View Post
    WW is at the top, and some secret part of her subconscious may purposely want to hold other women back, so that the thing that makes her special doesn't become a watermark anyone can achieve.
    Maybe some elsewolds passive-aggressive version, but not the Diana who grew up on Paradise Island surrounded by women and all she knows is women supporting one another. Even the HQ show, as irreverent as it is, isn't saying that about WW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j9ac9k View Post
    Maybe some elsewolds passive-aggressive version, but not the Diana who grew up on Paradise Island surrounded by women and all she knows is women supporting one another.
    Being raised in Paradise island didn't stop her from being a colossal bitch in Injustice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Being raised in Paradise island didn't stop her from being a colossal bitch in Injustice.
    Yeah, but for the most part everyone in that universe was supposed to be "off" to go alongside a totalitarian Superman.

    In contrast, this Superman agrees that the Daily Planet having a paywall is a bit much.

    Funnily enough, the Crew is supposed to visit Themyscira in season 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Fables is full of ****. She got a that harsh punishment for being a mass murder. She even admitted to Harley that she exaggerated how things went down to "add favor". Whenever Harley gets arrested for her crimes she's always sent to Arkham.
    Yeah but Harley never was and can never be a threat on the level of Fables. Ivy OTOH can control all plant life on Earth as stated in the show's canon. If she goes full villain, humanity is screwed. So it made sense the League wanted to throw her into the Phantom Zone.

    Having said that, Luthor, Manta, Joker etc. have probably caused global pandemonium earlier too and they didn't get as harsh punishments, so Fables's point still stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Not nearly as poetic as Fables getting her head knocked off.
    Lol I totally forgot that happened due to how much Ivy's death shook me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    Yeah but Harley never was and can never be a threat on the level of Fables. Ivy OTOH can control all plant life on Earth as stated in the show's canon. If she goes full villain, humanity is screwed. So it made sense the League wanted to throw her into the Phantom Zone.

    Having said that, Luthor, Manta, Joker etc. have probably caused global pandemonium earlier too and they didn't get as harsh punishments, so Fables's point still stands.
    No it doesn't because Harley entire crew was going to get thrown into the phantom zone. The League thought they were responsible for the rampaging plants. The males in her crew definitely weren't getting a slap on the wrist. Fables is still full of ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    No it doesn't because Harley entire crew was going to get thrown into the phantom zone. The League thought they were responsible for the rampaging plants. The males in her crew definitely weren't getting a slap on the wrist. Fables is still full of ****.
    Not to mention Fables doesn't seem human, so why should she get treated like a human criminal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    Yeah but Harley never was and can never be a threat on the level of Fables. Ivy OTOH can control all plant life on Earth as stated in the show's canon. If she goes full villain, humanity is screwed. So it made sense the League wanted to throw her into the Phantom Zone.

    Having said that, Luthor, Manta, Joker etc. have probably caused global pandemonium earlier too and they didn't get as harsh punishments, so Fables's point still stands.
    If the JL has some level of latent fears for how potentially destructive/dangerous Red may become, then that would certainly explain them jumping straight to the Nuclear Option. Harley and her crew were just guilty by proxy, so why not throw them in too? Its probably pretty easy for supers to adopt a "Meh, they're just villains, who cares?" attitude.

    Aside from Superman, the JL is made up of Earth born meta-humans. well and batman, who's just a normal(though exceptional) human. so they can all still fall pray to all the trappings of normal human psychology. In fact, given the stress they're under of having to be Earths fist line of defense from literally ANYTHING that may threaten it or its people(Domestic or extraterrestrial), they are actually at high risk for things like PTSD, God Complexes, or survivors guilt.
    it happens to Cops and soldiers all the time. constantly being on the front line and in the **** wares you down. and when you're constantly dealing with that 1% of the population that's just evil/unremorseful, it can leave a bad taste in your mouth and cause you to adopt paranoid and anti-social tendencies and ideals making it easy to become remorseless yourself, so throwing an entire crew of petty crooks into the phantom zone because you fear one of them becomes a pretty easy call if you just tell yourself "Its for the greater good"

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    I'm more willing to give the League the benefit of the doubt then I am Queen of Fables.

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    Alfred Molina will voice Mr. Freeze in season 2
    https://comicbook.com/dc/2020/02/24/...n-harley-quin/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Alfred Molina will voice Mr. Freeze in season 2
    https://comicbook.com/dc/2020/02/24/...n-harley-quin/
    That's awesome. Reminds me of when they got Peter Stormare for Freeze in Justice League Action .

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