Clone Saga - most cringeworthy moments?

[Skybright85]

I'm curious what other fans would say are the individual moments during Clone saga where the story was the most cringeworthy or "jumped the shark?"

[SuperiorIronman]

"Gwen"
Spidercide in general
Jackal's then new look
The return of Norman Osborn

[Revolutionary_Jack]

The ones that stick out are:
-- Peter striking MJ after hearing that he's a "clone".
-- Peter for a half-second agreeing to Jackal's plan to kill all humans

[Chubistian]

Every single line spoken by Jackal

[Pav]

The ones that stick out are:
-- Peter striking MJ after hearing that he's a "clone".
-- Peter for a half-second agreeing to Jackal's plan to kill all humans

These, for sure.

-Pav, who liked the Jackal's 90s look...

[AlexCampy89]

Nothing beats Peter beating a pregnant MJ.


Finding out that Judas Traveller was a B-list Mysterio comes close too...

[Celgress]

My top or bottom three

1.) Peter deciding to help Jackal commit global genocide because he thought he was a clone.

2.) An enraged Peter hitting a pregnant MJ (all be it by accident).

3.) Naked slime-covered Gwen Clones

[Dr. Skeleton]

The ones that stick out are:
-- Peter striking MJ after hearing that he's a "clone".
-- Peter for a half-second agreeing to Jackal's plan to kill all humans

Things like this is a wonder why Spider-Man is still beloved by fans. Or why MJ still stood by him afterwards.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Things like this is a wonder why Spider-Man is still beloved by fans. Or why MJ still stood by him afterwards.

It happened in a bad poorly-written story with a terrible concept that felt out of character and out of synch with the style and theme of the title. For the same reason Sins' Past is easy to discount. It's not a very well written story so nothing sticks. So it's easy to discount it. The Clone Saga is inherently anti-thetical to the style and nature of Spider-Man being this grounded low-end science fiction nature of the stories. The idea of Ben being the clone was ridiculous to pull off as a con with the readers which even editorial never believed in.

Compared to when Hank Pym slapped Janet, it happened in a very well-written story, the concept and theme was logically consistent to the pre-established character of Hank and Janet and the nature of their relationship, and it's in synch to Hank Pym's overall story, as being the great f--k up of the Marvel Universe, the f--k up before whom all f--k ups are measured and found redeeming and gratified when placed against.

[Blanks]

For me it was killing Ben. After issue 75, I dropped Spider-Man in its entirely until I picked Ultimate Spider-Man. As for 616, i didn’t pick up another issue until his unmasking in Civil War.

[Dr. Skeleton]

It happened in a bad poorly-written story with a terrible concept that felt out of character and out of synch with the style and theme of the title. For the same reason Sins' Past is easy to discount. It's not a very well written story so nothing sticks. So it's easy to discount it. The Clone Saga is inherently anti-thetical to the style and nature of Spider-Man being this grounded low-end science fiction nature of the stories. The idea of Ben being the clone was ridiculous to pull off as a con with the readers which even editorial never believed in.

Compared to when Hank Pym slapped Janet, it happened in a very well-written story, the concept and theme was logically consistent to the pre-established character of Hank and Janet and the nature of their relationship, and it's in synch to Hank Pym's overall story, as being the great f--k up of the Marvel Universe, the f--k up before whom all f--k ups are measured and found redeeming and gratified when placed against.

Exactly. Even though Hank paid for his actions, fans still wanna demonize him. I was just a kid when I had that comic and didn't understand what was happening. Also fans wanna get on Reed Richards' case for being neglectful towards Sue at times and the times when they would clash whenever one of them is turned evil beyond their control. I'm guessing it's Spidey's pop-culture status that makes fans so forgiving towards him even when the slap happened again in Spider-Man 3 which I'm guessing Sam Raimi loved Clone Saga. Fans can be fickle like that.

[JTait]

Spidercide, for me, summed up the excesses and the absurdities of the Clone Saga in one, garishly costumed package. The funny thing is that the concept of an evil clone of Peter Parker is a fairly solid one, and it was set up relatively well. Unfortunately, as with a lot of the Clone Saga it was dealt with appallingly and everything about the character, from his uninspired costume to his lame dialogue between a microcosm of everything I hated about the storyline.

[HypnoHustler]

You know what was cringe? ‘Wizard’ magazine giving full-on obnoxious fanboy rants about it month after month. This was really the era in which toxic fandom was born.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

You know what was cringe? ‘Wizard’ magazine giving full-on obnoxious fanboy rants about it month after month. This was really the era in which toxic fandom was born.

Toxic fandom has been a thing since Gwen Stacy died. Back then, Marvel printed death threats in the letters' pages itself.

Wizard Magazine was just this sad thing. It was the only big comics magazine for a time and that gave it disproportionate influence. At least in the internet there isn't really a single big site running things anymore.