Wonder Woman: The first superhero of DC's Heroic Age

[Pinsir]

Sounds to me as if they are saying everything literally happened. I cannot comprehend how stories would exist within this timeline. It honestly exceeds the Zelda timeline stuff in terms of craziness.

[king81992]

Sounds to me as if they are saying everything literally happened. I cannot comprehend how stories would exist within this timeline. It honestly exceeds the Zelda timeline stuff in terms of craziness.

Perhaps each generation is its own little universe?

[Pinsir]

Perhaps each generation is its own little universe?

I hope so, because that just means we can ignore the whole concept all together (like the Zelda timeline).

[Lukmendes]

DC loves to change Diana's origin and the time of her debut huh...

I'm honestly closer to disliking this than anything, but even if I did like the idea, I wouldn't be trusting DC to not screw it up again, I'll be glad if I'm wrong and it ends up being interesting, but as other pointed out, doing it so soon after Year One is weird.

Is another Crisis gonna happen to justify this retcon or what? Lol

[Restingvoice]

Here's what I can make out from DC Wonder Woman blurry new timeline plus a few others to help to frame the events

Generation 1 Dawn of The Heroic Age 25-year time window
Year 1 Wonder Woman debuts - Steve Trevor crashes on Themyscira
Year 3 JSA - covered by spoiler box
Year 5 Freedom Fighters and All-Star Squadron - JSA recruits Wonder Woman?
Year 8 Wonder Woman retreats to Themyscira following something. Bleeding Cool said "attack", someone else said "atomic bomb drop", I say "Steve Trevor's death"
Year 18 Senate banned superheroes

Generation 2 The Space Age 15-year time window
Year 1 Batman and Superman debuts
Year 2 Hal Jordan as GL, Barry as Flash, Aquaman debuts
Year 3 Dick Robin, Wally Kid Flash debuts
Year 4 Wonder Woman returned something
Year 5 Donna Troy something
Year 6 Teen Titans debut
Year 14 Wonder Woman debuts as the new something
Year 15 Crisis on Infinite Earths

Generation 3 The Age of Crisis 15-year time window
Year 4 Death of Superman
Year 5 Artemis Debuts
Year 6 Zero Hour
Year 11 Infinite Crisis - Wonder Woman? Kills? Max Lord? Pure guess here
Year 12 Donna Troy returns (From where?)
Year 14 Final Crisis
Year 15 Blackest Night - Flashpoint

Generation 4 The Flashpoint Age 5-year time window - confirmed as Didio posted a clear one
Year 1 Donna Troy takes over Wonder Woman mantle
Year 2 Diana back as Wonder Woman - Wonder Woman becomes God of War
Year 3 Rebirth - Wonder Woman relinquishes God of War mantle

That's it.

Generation 3
Year 9 Death of Donna Troy.

That's what she Returns from. Everyone who has "Returns" in their timeline has died at some point and I was looking for "Donna Troy Dies" because there's "Damian Dies" and "Hal Dies" but they change the phrasing so I couldn't find it at first.

So did Donna died before Infinite Crisis? because I remember seeing her alive there. I know there's a Death and Return of Donna Troy but I don't know when it happened.

It's possible I'm completely wrong too

Edit: There are some events where the chronology is turned around as The Killing Joke happened after Jason Todd's death or the big one like Wonder Woman debuts first, so it's not always the same chronology as before

[Agent Z]

DC never learns.

[bretmaverick2]

I can totally go with this new timeline. I like the idea of Diana as the first hero

And I’ll add that I have never really like either of Rucka’s runs on WW. I’ve found both to just be boring.

[witchboy]

So we're getting another reboot with the end of Doomsday Clock? I have reboot exhaustion.
I don't know that I care for Diana being a hundred years old or older.
I wonder if they'd do an ongoing WW comic set in the forties? Probably not but it's an interesting thought. Maybe WW in the JSA set in the forties?
I worry a bit for what they'll do with Steve.

[Koriand'r]

I'm temporally forgetting the indecipherable continuity and how it effects Wonder Woman's supporting cast for a second.

You want to make her over 100 years old fine, okay. But what irks me about it is she doesn't act her age, not emotionally or in any other way. She's had more than 4 times as much experience as Batman yet she sits back and lets him solve all the Justice League's problems. She's learned no detective skills in all that time? If everything is intact, why in the latest issue for example would she need Veronica Cale to figure out how Luthor enhanced the God Killer sword? She's a scientist in her own right and inventor of the Purple Healing Ray, she doesn't have access to a lab somewhere?

All the naivete, mistakes and bad decisions you'd forgive in a 20 something year old suddenly flies out the window when you're dealing with an immortal that should know better. Where's the emotional maturity, where's the wisdom? We all know from old people in our real lives that they love to tell stories about when they were young and how things were then. Unlike the Lynda Carter version who would sometimes make references to her long history, with current Diana you get no anecdotes about past battles or glory, no evidence of the breadth of what she's heard and seen. Even elderly people with dementia give you that, does she have a 50 first dates disorder where every day is brand new? If practice makes perfect where's the perfection?

She should be so much more savvy and capable than she is.

[witchboy]

I'm temporally forgetting the indecipherable continuity and how it effects Wonder Woman's supporting cast for a second.

You want to make her over 100 years old fine, okay. But what irks me about it is she doesn't act her age, not emotionally or in any other way. She's had more than 4 times as much experience as Batman yet she sits back and lets him solve all the Justice League's problems. She's learned no detective skills in all that time? If everything is intact, why in the latest issue for example would she need Veronica Cale to figure out how Luthor enhanced the God Killer sword? She's a scientist in her own right and inventor of the Purple Healing Ray, she doesn't have access to a lab somewhere?

All the naivete, mistakes and bad decisions you'd forgive in a 20 something year old suddenly flies out the window when you're dealing with an immortal that should know better. Where's the emotional maturity, where's the wisdom? We all know from old people in our real lives that they love to tell stories about when they were young and how things were then. Unlike the Lynda Carter version who would sometimes make references to her long history, with current Diana you get no anecdotes about past battles or glory, no evidence of the breadth of what she's heard and seen. Even elderly people with dementia give you that, does she have a 50 first dates disorder where every day is brand new? If practice makes perfect where's the perfection?

She should be so much more savvy and capable than she is.

Yes, this is my thought. You don't get the feeling that Diana is very very old. She almost always feels like a young woman, competent but learning. A 100 year old WW should be very different from a 25 year old one.

[Dr. Poison]

Yes, this is my thought. You don't get the feeling that Diana is very very old. She almost always feels like a young woman, competent but learning. A 100 year old WW should be very different from a 25 year old one.

Doesn't time pass differently on Paradise Island? Perhaps, when Diana returns home, not so much time has passed as in Man's World so emotionally she's only 10 years older or something like that.

[witchboy]

Doesn't time pass differently on Paradise Island? Perhaps, when Diana returns home, not so much time has passed as in Man's World so emotionally she's only 10 years older or something like that.

That would be a good solution. I'm not sure if time passes different there, but it could, and would be a good way to include her in other time periods while not aging her too much.

[Frontier]

Yes, this is my thought. You don't get the feeling that Diana is very very old. She almost always feels like a young woman, competent but learning. A 100 year old WW should be very different from a 25 year old one.

Part of Rucka's Year One also revolved around Diana being basically 18 and coming into her own as a young woman as part of the story.

I guess that now happened in WWII...?

[Koriand'r]

Doesn't time pass differently on Paradise Island? Perhaps, when Diana returns home, not so much time has passed as in Man's World so emotionally she's only 10 years older or something like that.

Good Idea! I could buy that, but they need to spell it out for us. If Themyscira's "tides of time" thing is still intact, the Amazons can make the island appear any place and anywhere in time. The Rebirth origin could still be active, she breaks up with Steve in the latest issue, goes home to Paradise to reflect and comes back in the 1940's to continue her mission where she won't see Steve. It could work. We could have our cake and eat it too.

[witchboy]

Good Idea! I could buy that, but they need to spell it out for us. If Themyscira's "tides of time" thing is still intact, the Amazons can make the island appear any place and anywhere in time. The Rebirth origin could still be active, she breaks up with Steve in the latest issue, goes home to Paradise to reflect and comes back in the 1940's to continue her mission where she won't see Steve. It could work. We could have our cake and eat it too.

This is such a perfect solution, I just fear they won't do it.