BATMAN ETERNAL mega thread 18-23

[CBR News]

Batgirl, Batwoman and Jason Todd race to find evidence that may save Commissioner Gordon!


Full article here.

[nepenthes]

This looks fun - pretty great triple threat right there

[teej]

Psyched to have finally gotten to Seeley's arc. Far and away my favorite writer of the team.

And this preview pretty much settles it. Seeley's a master of dialogue. "...cool as a damn pudding cup." There is no way I'm not using that in everyday conversations.

[DjessNL]

Liked how they brought up the Batgirl/Batwoman arc, and the High Tea part made me giggle. I have high expectations of this issue.

[doctormistermaster]

Does Eternal hold up without reading the Snyder's Batman?

[RobinFan4880]

Such a fun issue. spoilers:

It was great seeing Babs, Jason and again. Kate adventuring with one another. Killer Croc is bad ass, while Bard is making a case for him being a good guy again.

end of spoilers

Does Eternal hold up without reading the Snyder's Batman?

Zero Year is set long before, while Endgame (the next big arc) after Eternal. So you do not need to read Batman to understand Eternal. I would suggest getting Batman #28, as it was a special preview for what was to come in Eternal.

[tib2d2]

I liked this issue, especially after the awful past 3 issues with Batwing and the supernatural Arkham BS. Glad to see the Gordon story again, and I'm really liking Bard.

[RobinFan4880]

I really liked the supernatural story arc. My biggest complaint is that it was not given cameo progression the way other plots were between when the plot was first introduced and when it popped up again.

[kidstandout]

its amazing how much jason has grown as a character in this issue. yet people will still claim he works better as a punisher clone with an inferiority complex

[Aioros22]

its amazing how much jason has grown as a character in this issue. yet people will still claim he works better as a punisher clone with an inferiority complex

+1

If Dick Grayson is the Prodigial Son, Jason Todd is the Wildcard of the Bat group. Fans need to think long term, not in single story view. In a continuing narrative style of publication a character either adapts and thrives or gets stale.

I love Under The Red Hood, but this Jason got more layers that it isn`t funny.

[K. Jones]

I liked all of it. The Seeley-ness. More of that Croc. Creepy jazz in the sewers. Jason kind of being a blabbermouth - even when he's an ally again, he's kind of ruining everyone's day and/or secret identities, maybe. Batwoman's bemusement with the two bat-kids before taking charge. Babs' last days and various comics as a grim n' gritty, dragged down by darkness Batgirl being you know ... written that way, as if the writers (and Babs, and friends) might be realizing it and organically fueling the change.

Mind control dudes in Hawaiian shirts. Can't wait for that supervillain codename.

Referencing back Batgirl's other major (as opposed to group scene) run-in with Batwoman felt really natural, as did Babs' regard for, well, for how damn cool Kate's demeanor is. It's true, man. Kate's got some issues, but she's cool as hell in every regard.

[JasonTodd428]

its amazing how much jason has grown as a character in this issue. yet people will still claim he works better as a punisher clone with an inferiority complex

I enjoy how he's being handled here as well. I loved UtRD but I really wasn't happy about Jason remaining in that state indefinitely myself. I prefer reading about characters that grow and change not ones that remain static.

+1

If Dick Grayson is the Prodigial Son, Jason Todd is the Wildcard of the Bat group. Fans need to think long term, not in single story view. In a continuing narrative style of publication a character either adapts and thrives or gets stale.

I love Under The Red Hood, but this Jason got more layers that it isn`t funny.

Very nicely put and I agree with you.

[Claude]

Jason was great here. Shockingly callous about the death of Dick, broilingly angry at injustice, and casually lumping himself in with the rest of the "Bat Family" in his reminiscenses and talking up the qualities of Batgirl, even as he does so under the thin surface of resentment....

Just great character writing.

[Godlike13]

its amazing how much jason has grown as a character in this issue. yet people will still claim he works better as a punisher clone with an inferiority complex

Cause he does (though i would have put it like that). He was quite good here because they're doing a real good job portraying him with an enjoyable asshole-ish attitude, but id still be very happy to see Jason actually put that full clip into the bad guy at the end here. Character needs his bite back. He needs to be more then just a meaner Nightwing if they don't what him to get stale. Just look at RHatO. Its probably the stalest book in the Bat line right now. Though i guess it isn't edited out of the Bat office, so not sure if it even counts as part of the Bat line anymore.

[Rakiduam]

Jason was great here. Shockingly callous about the death of Dick, broilingly angry at injustice, and casually lumping himself in with the rest of the "Bat Family" in his reminiscenses and talking up the qualities of Batgirl, even as he does so under the thin surface of resentment....

Just great character writing.

There's nothing shocking about Jason's callousness, he never liked Dick, doesn't care he is dead, and Dick's loss has always been Jason's gain. The guy has no reason to be sad about what happend to Nightwing.

I wish Jason didn't speak as if he had known Dick, though.