Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
that wasn't Doom. it was Lucia von Bardas. anyhoo, pretty much anyone with an infinity guantlet and the will to use it could take on a cosmic being. that's why i ignore wins that required magical deux ex machina. he's definitely good at stealing power. they had to make him that way because he's not Magneto. and, again, for a sustained threat i would point to Magneto being an active terrorist. he has a heavy bodycount and a long life. good guys aren't the end-all.
Lucia, oh yes, dooms servant, I forgot

As for taking a gauntlet, I'll give you that, but how many did

As for sustained threat, I do agree about that with Magneto, at least in his earlier years, he was an outstanding villain because of that, but I think the original secret wars was a shift for Magneto and as a villain and threat he's depreciated

That's not a bad thing, he's certainly a better character for it imo

Clearly we disagree here, and I do accept that, I respect the difference of opinion