Would you still consider Punisher to be a Spider-Man character?

[RyanParkerMan]

No, he's not a Spider-Man character. A lot of characters crossover into Spider-Man or get their start in ASM. He's Spider-Man after all.

[TheRay]

I don’t consider Punisher to be a rogue, so I have to say no he does not count as a Spiderman character.
If I considered him a rogue I would put him in Spider-Man’s gallery, but I don’t think that fits him.

[HypnoHustler]

If they could get Garth Ennis to write it, then I'd totally support this.

Eh. When Spidey appeared in Punisher’s ongoing in the early 2000s, Ennis treated him like a joke. Ennis has gone on record saying he doesn’t care for traditional costumed heroes.

[K7P5V]

Eh. When Spidey appeared in Punisher’s ongoing in the early 2000s, Ennis treated him like a joke. Ennis has gone on record saying he doesn’t care for traditional costumed heroes.

Yeah, you're right. Just wanted to add some levity to an already hostile situation.

[Vegeta]

He's as much a Spider-Man character as Wolverine is considered a Hulk character. They will always have an intense rivalry and some history, but that's about it.

[ngroove]

He's as much a Spider-Man character as Wolverine is considered a Hulk character. They will always have an intense rivalry and some history, but that's about it.

Not really.

Observe Mister Mets' post last page, on former frequency of encore encounters / guest appearances.

Punisher, it took the following decade, the eighties, before he had his own title, but before then, he had annual or bi-annual comeback appearances on Spider-Man, with a pop-in each on Daredevil and Captain America.

And even after he had his own title, he still annually or bi-annually guested on Spider-Man through the first half of the nineties, but I'd assume mostly because "It's the nineties", when the thing Marvel loved to do was saturate Venom, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Punisher around.

Wolverine, about a year after his one appearance on Hulk, became an X-Man. Sure, he and Hulk's scrapped several more times since, to my knowledge their first encore bout was not until the late eighties on a Todd McFarlane issue of Hulk, but by then, Wolverine's still pegged as "X-Man", or his own character, since by the time of his first solo mini.

[TheRay]

I'd call Black Panther a Fantastic Four character.

If we were writing a villain Black Panther story I would call him a Fantastic Four character.

[ngroove]

If we were writing a villain Black Panther story I would call him a Fantastic Four character.

Black Panther, Inhumans, and most notably Silver Surfer, although each has their notable independent marks as franchises of their own right in their own corners of Marvel, yes, I'd still say they are Fantastic Four characters.

[Uncanny Mutie]

No. He's long since outgrown just being a Spider-Man character. He outgrew that role way back in the late 80s, and definitely by the early 90s when he had 3 or 4 different solo titles running at the same time.

[CrimsonEchidna]

I'd say in the past decade or so, he's closer in relation to Daredevil than Spider-man.

[phantom1592]

I'd say in the past decade or so, he's closer in relation to Daredevil than Spider-man.

Beat me to it!

Honestly, the only time I ever like Punisher... Is when he's an antagonist to Daredevil. His guest appearances in Daredevil always make for an interesting conflict, both physical and philosophically. They're more a match physically... Honestly when I think of the top 5 Daredevil enemies.... He makes the list. Below Kingpin and Bullseye and MAYBE owl... but higher than Mr. Fear... I love when he appears there.

Spider-man?? They don't really have that 'opposite sides of the coin that Frank and Matt have. Spidey dislikes the killer, but not much more to their 'fights' than there is with wolverine or Deadpool or any other 'anti-hero' that he teams up with. Even in the 90's when he showed up in a spidey book you just knew it was 'because he's popular' and not for any deeper reason.

[Uncanny Mutie]

I'd say in the past decade or so, he's closer in relation to Daredevil than Spider-man.

Exactly. I've thought the same thing over the past several years, and I think the Netflix TV shows only solidified it. Also, just like Kingpin, Punisher fits MUCH better as an antagonist for Daredevil than he does for Spider-Man anyway.

[TheRay]

Black Panther, Inhumans, and most notably Silver Surfer, although each has their notable independent marks as franchises of their own right in their own corners of Marvel, yes, I'd still say they are Fantastic Four characters.

I agree with you to a point. It’s difficult for me to say definitively when it comes to two hero characters, meaning usually comic book heroes are their own characters and don’t belong elsewhere.

[KurtW95]

No though I do still consider Wilson Fisk as such.