Powers of X #6 *spoilers*

[Veitha]

Not putting all the eggs in the same basket would be a great start. No reason not to start colonies off world.

Probably Mars and the Moon colonies and possibly the Sh'iar mission will be a nice way of expanding further.

[RachelGrey]

Well, I think that the question becomes "how far do you go to save mutantkind?"

Do you kill all the humans before they can kill you?

But aren't humans the main source of new mutants? Can mutantkind continue to thrive if humankind was gone? Or would their numbers dwindle?

So, since I don't think that Xavier's goal is to eliminate humankind, I think there must be some amount of coexistence of some kind. At least for the immediate future. Obviously, Moira's view is of a thousand year span.....so that's a bit different. She has co-opted his dream and redirected him to her goals....but are those the same? It's hard to say.

It seems to me what they need to do is to prevent the rise of the post-human hybrids. So they'll continue to fight against the elements that lead to that.....which seems to be things like Sentinel tech, specifically Omega Sentinels and similar, and other merging of man and machine.

I agree, everything they have done so far is not to start a war with humans. Mutants have engaged in an exodus to a safe territory where they can live unmolested. But at the same time they are reaching a hand out with their medicines and saying to the world at large, look we don't mean anyone harm we are just tired of being persecuted, we'll trade our life saving drugs with you, all we want in exchange is that you recognize our new country as a sovereign nation and trade peacefully with us. They aren't retreating from the entire world and hiding like the Inhumans. In fact Krakoa is opening embassies that allow trade and escorted visits to their new nation. They are engaging in business deals, they will probably buy products from all around the world. I am sure that the nation of Krakoa is going to need agricultural products to sustain their people at the very least. I am sure they will need more than that. That means that Krakoa is willing to trade in good faith and buy products from other countries too and not just sell their internal products only.

[mike7171]

The journal that has been redacted #12 and #35, has anyone able to un-redact it?

[Astroman]

Nice recap I also think that her main goal in this life is to have mutants reach the Navissima status before humans (hence Krakoa, Resurrection and mutant biotech), as she must have probably already tried in Life 9 with the Chimeras. So she's not just removing Nimrod from the equation, but she wants mutants to work together as one now. Plus Charles introduced the new variable of Resurrection, also bringing Sinister in though.

That makes sense to me too, and these possibilities are part of why I like this last chapter. There is a looming chance of failure ("we ALWAYS lose") and a slim chance of having a new outcome.

Maybe they win, maybe they lose, and maybe it's a bit of column a and a bit from column b.

[Glio]

Literally the only way apart from selling Krakoa's medicines to be recognized as a nation would be with a show of strength. Do you really think the flower alternative is so bad?

[cranger]

I guess we have to disagree. I think that the metaphor of mutants standing in for all the oppressed people in real life has reached a point where a new idea is needed. I welcome this new direction and I hope that it outlasts Charles and Erik and that the mutants are able to continue Krakoa even after the architects fall.

I do think that the foundation of Krakoa is built on deceit and that will eventually come back to bite Charles and Erik in the ass. Charles and Erik are deceiving everyone and trying to contain and control everyone to follow the path that they have chosen. Moira herself is having doubts about decisions they have made and she still doesn't believe this will succeed. In the end Moira, Charles, and Erik are still flawed in spite of the foreknowledge gained from Moira's lives, and they are still making mistakes.

I think Hickman is more inspire by science fiction such as the works of John Wyndham and has little care for any metaphor dealing with oppressed people.

[Samurai32]

Wonder if Moira will ever be cured of her mutation. If not, then her death will reset whatever she, Xavier and Magneto accomplished, even if they succeed and she dies of old age.

Remember the original promo poster showed Cable with the gun Forge created that takes away mutant powers. I think I smell Moira’s eventual fate.

Nevermind. I see other people already mentioned this.

[RachelGrey]

I think Hickman is more inspire by science fiction such as the works of John Wyndham and has little care for any metaphor dealing with oppressed people.

And yet "The Chrysalids" by John Wyndham is one of my favorite books and it too showed a group of people who were desperate to survive in the face of human oppression and prejudice.

Mind you, I will concede in advance that Wyndham also showed how prejudice can show up on both sides when the Zealanders rescued David, Rosalind, Petra, and Michael they didn't care about the humans and other mutants. The Zealanders just wanted to rescue the telepaths and everyone else be damned. In a way this is a vision of some of the differing viewpoints on Krakoa. Jean is a presentation of the belief in the goodness of all people to rise above the evils of the world, Erik represents the polar opposite of Jean in the belief that the only way to stop the evil of humans is to perpetuate evil in return. Emma is in the middle as the person who is skeptical of humans and believes that most of them are horrible, but at the same time she is willing to work with them if necessary and even do business with them.

I don't mind that Hickman wants the emphasize the Sci Fi aspects of mutants in Marvel. The X-books have always been a good mix of earth bound stories mixed with space stories involving the Brood and the Shi'ar. Heck the X-books have even crossed over with the Asgardians several times in the past.

Bring on the SciFi mutants!

[JB]

Kurt just isn't leader material why he's even on the council is odd to me I can think of multiple X-men who could have the spot before him.

Gotta disagree with this one. Kurt was a fine leader of Excalibur as he gradually took over the role from Brian. Plus as someone mentioned, his spiritual side is an asset.

[ExodusCloak]

Remember the original promo poster showed Cable with the gun Forge created that takes away mutant powers. I think I smell Moira’s eventual fate.

The effects of his gun was not permanent, did the gun reappear with Forge in Rom? And was it used by SHIELD against aliens?

[Wissenschaft]

Remember the original promo poster showed Cable with the gun Forge created that takes away mutant powers. I think I smell Moira’s eventual fate.

If the 616 is going to be seen as the best timeline and best hope for mutants (which it will because Marvel doesn't do canon reboots) then Moria has to lose her powers eventual so as to make this timeline permanent.

I think a clear theme in this run will be overcoming the us vs them mentality of human vs mutant conflicts and try to get this new xavier and the xmen back to peaceful coexistence with the rest of humanity. Theres certainly a pervasive cynicism within this new xmen canon that Xavier dream was hopeless but knowing hickman and what hes done on his avengers run, what seems impossible at first will be where the story arc ends.

So I'm calling it now, I expect by the end of hickmans run on xmen for some hope and optimism to be restored to mutant & human relations.

[RachelGrey]

If the 616 is going to be seen as the best timeline and best hope for mutants (which it will because Marvel doesn't do canon reboots) then Moria has to lose her powers eventual so as to make this timeline permanent.

I think she will be depowered at some point to lock everyone into the current lifetime. I guess it depends, Hickman has also given future writers a reset button if they want to use it. They could even have Moira show up 5 or 10 years from now and say suprise suckers I never lost my powers now Wolverine kill me.

[marseve]

I still think HOPOX is the origin story of the deadliest X villain ever- MOIRA

[Wissenschaft]

I think she will be depowered at some point to lock everyone into the current lifetime. I guess it depends, Hickman has also given future writers a reset button if they want to use it. They could even have Moira show up 5 or 10 years from now and say suprise suckers I never lost my powers now Wolverine kill me.

I find it amusing that Wolverine is Moira's preferred method of death. Also, anyone else think it cool that what Moira says in life 9, telling wolverine to kill her, is just her repeating what wolverine himself said in life 6. Theres something poetic and endearing in a morbid sort of way about that.

I still think HOPOX is the origin story of the deadliest X villain ever- MOIRA

Its a possibility given how strongly Moira believes that peace with humans or even beating them is impossible. Life 6 certainly explains why the lives afterwards are all Moira attempting more extreme methods. Shes desperate and filled with a sense of hopelessness. If Xavier tries to move towards a more peaceful and coperative stance with humanity then Moira might oppose it since shes long lost all hope for peace.

[Lapsus]

Other people are changing and adapting, your not. That whats scary. Neanderthals don't exist anymore, another species took over. And mutants seem like a separate species similar to Neanderthals in that they can breed with homo sapiens but are not the same species.

Honestly, there have been pogroms against groups of people for less understandable reasons. Humans reaction to mutants in the MCU doesn't shock me at all.

No, Neanderthals + Neanderthals give you Neanderthal. Human + Human will give you mutant with more frequency. Then humans inevitable will eventually mate with mutants.

The point of the Mutants is that is a foregone conclusion, i dont need to adapt, my son will do or my grandson.

We are not getting defeated by a better species, is humanity chapter 2. Mutants are scary at personal level, you dont want to cross your path with Apocalypse but neither with other monsters.

The way i see it, humanity stance in this topic is bad writing.