Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 30 of 30
  1. #16
    Mighty Member Godzilla2099's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,172

    Default

    Cyclops Wins. He may get a bloody nose and maybe a shiner, but he still wins.

    Hal has military training and saw his share of h2h fights, but Scott is on another level. He's an expert in several forms of martial arts (I'll say B Tier of best h2h fighters in the X-Men) and has several feats to prove it.

    Some Feats I remember:
    - Fighting multiple opponents with his eyes closed
    - Easily defeating several thugs in jail
    - Hacked a monster to pieces using a sword blindfolded

  2. #17
    The Tentacle God Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Dead City of R'lyeh
    Posts
    17,891

    Default

    Uh, didn't Hal also slap up a Polar Bear ?

    I feel like he should just flat overpower Scott ?
    "... and when the Golden Toad started to sing, there was no turning back." - grampagen (Ochazuke)

    "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."

  3. #18
    Prince of Duckness Beadle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,073

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Uh, didn't Hal also slap up a Polar Bear ?
    Wut.

    I mean...

    ... wut.

  4. #19
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    415

    Default

    Forget the grizzly he beat the stuffing out of Guy, the vuldarian Powerhouse! His hth must be legendary.

  5. #20
    The Tentacle God Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Dead City of R'lyeh
    Posts
    17,891

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Wut.

    I mean...

    ... wut.
    Yea, he fought him for control of an iceberg ... and it looked like he was out of power at the time, because he just threw hands with him. Though he's still got the ring so ... no idea ?

    "... and when the Golden Toad started to sing, there was no turning back." - grampagen (Ochazuke)

    "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."

  6. #21
    Legendary God of Pirates Nik Hasta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    London, UK
    Posts
    4,823

    Default

    I'm slightly more impressed that Hal can outswim a polar bear in freezing water.
    Twitter

    Tumblr

    Follow my social media for animations and art and junk.

    Underbelly: A Mafia Intrigue RPG. Come and do crimes!

    Art Thread on CBR

  7. #22
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    415

    Default

    He knocked the bear out with that power dive.

  8. #23
    Rumbles Limbo Champion big_adventure's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,388

    Default

    This kind of smacks as "not really at all consistent with his presentation."

    That, or the writer has no idea at all what a polar bear is or what it's capable of.
    "But... But I want to be a big karate cyborg... ;_;"
    - Nik Hasta

    "Get off my lawn!

    ...on this forum, that just makes people think of Cyclops."

    - Sharpandpointies

    "...makes me think the Night King just says "Screw the rules, I have magic money" when it comes to physics."
    -Captain Morgan

  9. #24
    Astonishing Member Captain Morgan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    3,134

    Default

    So the thing is Hal actually has a lot of stuff like that. But I'll note that that might have been Precrisis, as are a lot of his hand to hand feats. Post crisis, he's still taken down mobs of people, put Batman on his ass, and thrown down with super strong aliens. He does that kind of stuff rather a lot... The issue is that there's no real reason WHY he should be able to land a hit on Batman for example, or take on whole mobs of people. He doesn't have some insane history of training in the martial arts or whatever. He's just supposed to be a tough sinuva gun. So I don't tend to take it too seriously.
    Last edited by Captain Morgan; Today at 06:22 AM.

  10. #25
    The Weeping Mod Sharpandpointies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    6,713

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    So the thing is Hal actually has a lot of stuff like that. But I'll note that that might have been Precrisis, as are a lot of his hand to hand feats. Post crisis, he's still taken down mons of people, put Batman on his ass, and thrown down with super strong aliens. He does that kind of stuff rather a lot... The issue is that there's no real reason WHY he should be able to land a hit on Batman for example, or take on whole mobs of people. He doesn't have some insane history of training in the martial arts or whatever. He's just supposed to be a tough sinuva gun. So I don't tend to take it too seriously.
    It's a pretty standard trope in some fiction that 'tough brawler' can throw down against 'hyperskilled martial artist who is billed as one of the best fighters in the world'. Because...unpredictability? Doesn't follow 'rules'? Diiiirrrrrteeee Fighting? Or other garbage reasons that don't stand up to the least examination.
    Why Are We Here?, by Pendaran

    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers."
    - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move."
    - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman."
    - Pendaran

  11. #26
    Astonishing Member Captain Morgan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    3,134

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    It's a pretty standard trope in some fiction that 'tough brawler' can throw down against 'hyperskilled martial artist who is billed as one of the best fighters in the world'. Because...unpredictability? Doesn't follow 'rules'? Diiiirrrrrteeee Fighting? Or other garbage reasons that don't stand up to the least examination.
    That's true. I'm not 100% sure what to do it from a rumbles perspective though. I'm reminded of Vargas or Karate Kid having pretty hilariously bad explanations for their fighting capacity, and we tend to use them as written.

  12. #27
    The Weeping Mod Sharpandpointies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    6,713

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    That's true. I'm not 100% sure what to do it from a rumbles perspective though. I'm reminded of Vargas or Karate Kid having pretty hilariously bad explanations for their fighting capacity, and we tend to use them as written.
    Feats are feats, as long as they make some sense with the characters' presentation. Just commenting on the silliness of the trope.
    Why Are We Here?, by Pendaran

    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers."
    - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move."
    - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman."
    - Pendaran

  13. #28
    Rumbles Limbo Champion big_adventure's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,388

    Default

    I mean, the "It's not hard getting him off balance, the trick is keeping him there!" line... Adult polar bears weigh 700kg or so. An, I dunno, 85kg dude without mystical martial arts kablooey is going to have a REALLY hard time putting that thing off-balance with a kick.
    "But... But I want to be a big karate cyborg... ;_;"
    - Nik Hasta

    "Get off my lawn!

    ...on this forum, that just makes people think of Cyclops."

    - Sharpandpointies

    "...makes me think the Night King just says "Screw the rules, I have magic money" when it comes to physics."
    -Captain Morgan

  14. #29
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    415

    Default

    Those little blue guys sure don't let poozers out till they can handle grizzly bears singlehandedly.

  15. #30
    The Weeping Mod Sharpandpointies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    6,713

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    I mean, the "It's not hard getting him off balance, the trick is keeping him there!" line... Adult polar bears weigh 700kg or so. An, I dunno, 85kg dude without mystical martial arts kablooey is going to have a REALLY hard time putting that thing off-balance with a kick.
    Did it with a shoulder tackle which is...throwing a tiny body into a huge quadruped.

    Basically serving himself up for dinner.
    Why Are We Here?, by Pendaran

    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers."
    - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move."
    - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman."
    - Pendaran

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •