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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    By putting it even just a little on them you are making an excuse for Ellis though...so why preface it?

    It's like saying, "I don't think fascism is right... but maybe society is made up of sheep who really do need a strong authority to lead them." As much as you say otherwise at the start of your statement the end proves otherwise.
    Its about hopes I guess. You feel something is off but hope its not the case. That's what I wanted to say. You should be aware people are out for themselves. Celebreties especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batnbreakfast View Post
    Its about hopes I guess. You feel something is off but hope its not the case. That's what I wanted to say. You should be aware people are out for themselves. Celebreties especially.
    It's softer...but it means the same in the end as it still says, "if only these women had been more self aware then these allegations would never come to light." It just serves to remove culpability from Ellis and normalizes celebrity's bad behavior.

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