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    Mighty Member Uncanny Mutie's Avatar
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    I thought about getting this to see Warren Ellis do a "straight-take" on Batman, but I can't STAND Hitch's art, so..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    I thought it wasn't in continuity?
    I wasn't sure if it is or not really.
    Pulls: Batman, Detective Comics, Flash Forward, and Young Justice.
    My runs: Batman #298- and Detective #500-

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    Does continuity really matter? I just want a good story

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    Does continuity really matter? I just want a good story
    Same here, but with in continuity there's the risk that they'll attempt to tie it into some big event, and I just want a story that stands alone by itself. Luckily whether in or out of continuity this still looks to be just that. And here's hoping it'll be a good story!

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    The pacing is just so decompressed it isn't even funny, I mean I kind of expect a good amount of that kind of storytelling from Hitch and Ellis but this was excessive even for them and worse it gave us no insight into Bruce or his case and the whole reason behind favoring a decompressed narrative structure is to slow things down so you can get into the characters so to have that style and learn nothing is just a waste of pages. We were "treated" to nearly 14 whole pages of a brawl between Batman and a ghoul named The Face Eater and then three pages of Gordon turning on the Bat-signal and Batman flying up in the batjet and repelling down to the roof...all with barely any dialog and no mono-logging at all so we learn nothing about what Bruce is thinking and how the case effects him and then as quickly as it starts it's just over and we're moving onto a seemingly unconnected case. This has one more issue to catch me or I'm out. I really can't believe I'm saying that given how much I love both Ellis and Hitch but that's where we are.
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    I could not understand the Love for Ellis' Moon Knight and it sounds like DC wants to do that with Batman. Is the latest Wildstorm any good? Thinking of getting it for Midnighter and Apollo

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    Quote Originally Posted by batnbreakfast View Post
    I could not understand the Love for Ellis' Moon Knight and it sounds like DC wants to do that with Batman. Is the latest Wildstorm any good? Thinking of getting it for Midnighter and Apollo
    Yes The Wild Storm is a very good book and I recommend you read it.
    BUT a word of warning - there isn't much Apollo and Midnighter within.
    Sure they do show up but not in the way I think you're thinking.

    Side note - found Ellis' MK very good and I am enjoying The Batman's Grave quite a lot.
    I mean something as simple as Batmanin the day time is a plus for me (yes I'm a bit weird. Blame Adam West Batman ).
    Writing and art are also top notch. It's also heavy on the detective aspect of Batman which I have missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    The pacing is just so decompressed it isn't even funny, I mean I kind of expect a good amount of that kind of storytelling from Hitch and Ellis but this was excessive even for them and worse it gave us no insight into Bruce or his case and the whole reason behind favoring a decompressed narrative structure is to slow things down so you can get into the characters so to have that style and learn nothing is just a waste of pages. We were "treated" to nearly 14 whole pages of a brawl between Batman and a ghoul named The Face Eater and then three pages of Gordon turning on the Bat-signal and Batman flying up in the batjet and repelling down to the roof...all with barely any dialog and no mono-logging at all so we learn nothing about what Bruce is thinking and how the case effects him and then as quickly as it starts it's just over and we're moving onto a seemingly unconnected case. This has one more issue to catch me or I'm out. I really can't believe I'm saying that given how much I love both Ellis and Hitch but that's where we are.
    Agree with everything. Might be worth checking out as a complete trade but it’s a waste of single issues. Would’ve preferred them just releasing the whole thing as an OGN

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    I'll just read this in tpb. Feels like it'll read better that way.
    Follow your inner moonlight, do not hide the madness. -Ginsberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by batnbreakfast View Post
    I could not understand the Love for Ellis' Moon Knight and it sounds like DC wants to do that with Batman. Is the latest Wildstorm any good? Thinking of getting it for Midnighter and Apollo
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
    Yes The Wild Storm is a very good book and I recommend you read it.
    BUT a word of warning - there isn't much Apollo and Midnighter within.
    Sure they do show up but not in the way I think you're thinking.

    Side note - found Ellis' MK very good and I am enjoying The Batman's Grave quite a lot.
    I mean something as simple as Batmanin the day time is a plus for me (yes I'm a bit weird. Blame Adam West Batman ).
    Writing and art are also top notch. It's also heavy on the detective aspect of Batman which I have missed.

    On The Wild Storm...

    While I absolutely agree on that buying it for The Midnighter and Apollo might not be the right call, there are two things worth noting.

    - First, the arcs are essentially stand alone(in six issue arcs). One could very easily pick up the arc where the team most folks would know as "The Authority" forms and not miss much.

    - Second, The Wild Storm was easily the best thing in all of comics during the time it was running. Just the arc where Lynch deals with the former ***** subjects(essentially the book's Gen 12/Team 7 analogs) was worth whatever you would pay for the entire run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    on the wild storm...

    While i absolutely agree on that buying it for the midnighter and apollo might not be the right call, there are two things worth noting.

    - first, the arcs are essentially stand alone(in six issue arcs). One could very easily pick up the arc where the team most folks would know as "the authority" forms and not miss much.

    - second, the wild storm was easily the best thing in all of comics during the time it was running. Just the arc where lynch deals with the former ***** subjects(essentially the book's gen 12/team 7 analogs) was worth whatever you would pay for the entire run.


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