A-Train vs Spider-Man

**MichaelC** · 10-10-2019, 06:40 PM

TV A-Train vs comicbook Spider-Man

**LordMikel** · 10-10-2019, 07:26 PM

He is a bit of a C level wrestler, I'm sure Spider-Man could take him pretty easily.

**Shellhead** · 10-11-2019, 06:46 AM

How does this not end in an A-Train blitz? Sure, Spider-man fought Quicksilver and Speed Demon, but this is Rumbles, not some PIS scene in a comic.

**Desmark** · 10-11-2019, 07:04 AM

Maybe the spider sense can tell him when he is going to strike which can enable him to create a web barrier/trap that snares him providing he doesn't see it in time in some other setting but in the arena it's a stomp in A-Train's favour.

**Shellhead** · 10-11-2019, 07:16 AM

Unlike Quicksilver and Speed Demon, A-Train has superhuman strength. This fight will be over almost before it has even started.

**The Arbiter** · 10-11-2019, 07:18 AM

Did we ever get hard numbers on how fast A-train can move? Over mach 1, sure, but HOW much over?

He does have hefty super strength to contend with as well, sure.

**Desmark** · 10-11-2019, 07:24 AM

Oh yeah I remember him pulling the train and ****. Will the webbing be able to hold him even if it does snare him?

**The Arbiter** · 10-11-2019, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Desmark

Oh yeah I remember him pulling the train and ****. Will the webbing be able to hold him even if it does snare him?

........yes? I think?

Mileage may vary here, but the train feat happened immediately post super steroid abuse. It's probably not quite his baseline.

He can probably tear through a single snare, but not if Peter REALLY wraps the dude up with continuous layers

**Shellhead** · 10-11-2019, 07:58 AM

TV A-Train's first "appearance."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVP4zUJkcq8

**The Arbiter** · 10-11-2019, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Shellhead

TV A-Train's first "appearance."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVP4zUJkcq8

I can't watch it now, but I'm assuming it's him splattering the woman?

Honestly, I could see Peter accomplishing something similar if he were to wind up and leap full strength. People are preeeettty squishy compared to him.

**Shellhead** · 10-11-2019, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by The Arbiter

I can't watch it now, but I'm assuming it's him splattering the woman?

Honestly, I could see Peter accomplishing something similar if he were to wind up and leap full strength. People are preeeettty squishy compared to him.

You have a vivid imagination. In 57 years of comics, Spider-man has zero feats for splattering people. As for squishiness, he is one of the strongest comic book characters who isn't bulletproof, so I doubt that his normal human tissue is going to make an ideal instrument for splattering people, even if he leaps at full strength.

**The Arbiter** · 10-11-2019, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Shellhead

You have a vivid imagination. In 57 years of comics, Spider-man has zero feats for splattering people. As for squishiness, he is one of the strongest comic book characters who isn't bulletproof, so I doubt that his normal human tissue is going to make an ideal instrument for splattering people, even if he leaps at full strength.

What an unusual argument. "Hasn't happened" doesn't mean couldn't happen. Superman has been in publication history even longer for example and I don't believe he has ever splattered a regular human by catching them or running through them or some other thing at speed. Do you think Superman can't splatter people? I mean, he hasn't after all.

Spiderman has compartmentalized durability. Other showings against blunt force have him getting his head smashed through thick concrete or metal piping. His bones and tissues can withstand the stress of shoving around train cars and tossing vehicles about. He's punched through the load bearing structures in buildings, collapsing them, and doesn't even skin his knuckles.

Edit: Basically, yes, I do believe a person as durable, strong and fast as Spiderman could smash a regular human to bits by tackling them at full force/speed.

Double edit: Perhaps you could argue said normal person would at least be in a more recognizable state, sure. But smashed up regardless. Like, Peter could absolutely punch a guys head off or stick his arm through a torso reeeaaally easy, so a full speed leap could accomplish at LEAST that level, probably way more.

**Shellhead** · 10-11-2019, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Arbiter

What an unusual argument. "Hasn't happened" doesn't mean couldn't happen. Superman has been in publication history even longer for example and I don't believe he has ever splattered a regular human by catching them or running through them or some other thing at speed. Do you think Superman can't splatter people? I mean, he hasn't after all.

Spiderman has compartmentalized durability. Other showings against blunt force have him getting his head smashed through thick concrete or metal piping. His bones and tissues can withstand the stress of shoving around train cars and tossing vehicles about. He's punched through the load bearing structures in buildings, collapsing them, and doesn't even skin his knuckles.

Edit: Basically, yes, I do believe a person as durable, strong and fast as Spiderman could smash a regular human to bits by tackling them at full force/speed.

Double edit: Perhaps you could argue said normal person would at least be in a more recognizable state, sure. But smashed up regardless. Like, Peter could absolutely punch a guys head off or stick his arm through a torso reeeaaally easy, so a full speed leap could accomplish at LEAST that level, probably way more.

I totally agree that Spider-man could decapitate a normal human with a punch, or punch straight through a normal human's torso. But that is concentrating his strength into a smallish focal point. I just don't think that he has the ability to move so quickly and forcefully that he could vaporize a normal human by colliding with them. He just doesn't have the combined speed and mass to do it. In the same setting, Quicksilver doesn't have that capability either, and his rate of movement is considerably faster.

**The Arbiter** · 10-11-2019, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Shellhead

I totally agree that Spider-man could decapitate a normal human with a punch, or punch straight through a normal human's torso. But that is concentrating his strength into a smallish focal point. I just don't think that he has the ability to move so quickly and forcefully that he could vaporize a normal human by colliding with them. He just doesn't have the combined speed and mass to do it. In the same setting, Quicksilver doesn't have that capability either, and his rate of movement is considerably faster.

I did try to concede that whatever Peter accomplishes would be in a "more recognizable state" then what A-Train managed, sure. I don't think they would be soup. But they would be chili.

..............this thread is making me hungry. Not proud.

**The Drunkard Kid** · 10-11-2019, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Shellhead

Unlike Quicksilver and Speed Demon, A-Train has superhuman strength. This fight will be over almost before it has even started.

IIRC, doesn't Quicksilver have extremely low level superhuman strength, especially in his legs?

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