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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    I think it only gives bullet time reflexes and fighting skills if you already have pretty good reflexes and fighting skills. Most people just get a two minute heads up when they're about to beaten to a pulp or shot.
    Which wouldn't happen because of the teleportation. The teleportation that allows you to also teleport vehicles that you drive (in Jumper, they did it with cars and the like). Like say, a tank, or an attack helicopter, or to press a button that will explode a nuke you have stolen from high security that you have set in your previous location (assuming you know how to operate one). With Jumper teleportation, resources are virtually limitless.

    Also, Nicholas Cage in Next never gave the impression of being superhuman (i.e. being stronger or faster than normal). However, it was explicitly shown onscreen that precog = dodging bullets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    Which wouldn't happen because of the teleportation. The teleportation that allows you to also teleport vehicles that you drive (in Jumper, they did it with cars and the like). Like say, a tank, or an attack helicopter, or to press a button that will explode a nuke you have stolen from high security that you have set in your previous location (assuming you know how to operate one).
    Porting your car is nice. Unles you can actually fly a helicopter or drive a tank, which is very unlikely, being able to teleport those seems like a useles bonus.

    How familiar do you have to be with your target destination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Porting your car is nice. Unles you can actually fly a helicopter or drive a tank, which is very unlikely, being able to teleport those seems like a useles bonus
    That was an example, you crazy. The same can just as easily be done with say, a mounted anti-aircraft gun with you conveniently just above the assassins, or an armored truck, or any number of other useful items. And of course, none of this actually stops you from actually learning how to pilot a tank, should you decide to steal one and try.

    How familiar do you have to be with your target destination?
    I believe all you need is an image in your mind, which is why jumpers usually collect scrapbook images of places and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Porting your car is nice. Unles you can actually fly a helicopter or drive a tank, which is very unlikely, being able to teleport those seems like a useles bonus.

    How familiar do you have to be with your target destination?
    I doubt Guldo knows how to drive a steamroller, but he certainly used one here:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswin View Post
    Hmm , it's been awhile since i saw the movie, i was under the impression that he could just stack it as much as he wanted. so how come it was the woman that made his power spike up?
    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    Also, Nicholas Cage in Next never gave the impression of being superhuman (i.e. being stronger or faster than normal). However, it was explicitly shown onscreen that precog = dodging bullets.
    The first time he foresaw anything more than 2 minutes was him seeing that he'd meet the female lead years earlier who was his 'destined love' or something like it. spoilers:
    When she was in danger and her life was at-stake he was able to foresee the last half of the movie as a precognitive dream sequence, and do all those fancy tricks he couldn't do before he met up with her.
    end of spoilers Everything special that happens after he met her is a 'Power of Love' power up that doesn't tie in to his normal use of precog IMO.

    Mind you, the 2 minutes schtick is awesome on it's own for making money and avoiding the folks hunting you, but searching the ship like he did at the end of the movie isn't going to be happening unless it involves someone very important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    The first time he foresaw anything more than 2 minutes was him seeing that he'd meet the female lead years earlier who was his 'destined love' or something like it. spoilers:
    When she was in danger and her life was at-stake he was able to foresee the last half of the movie as a precognitive dream sequence, and do all those fancy tricks he couldn't do before he met up with her.
    end of spoilers Everything special that happens after he met her is a 'Power of Love' power up that doesn't tie in to his normal use of precog IMO.

    Mind you, the 2 minutes schtick is awesome on it's own for making money and avoiding the folks hunting you, but searching the ship like he did at the end of the movie isn't going to be happening unless it involves someone very important to you.
    Unless the girl has superpowers of her own, doesn't that simply mean that said powers get stronger whenever you're really, REALLY motivated?

    This would work just as well if you wanted to save your own life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    Unless the girl has superpowers of her own, doesn't that simply mean that said powers get stronger whenever you're really, REALLY motivated?

    This would work just as well if you wanted to save your own life.
    They didn't work like that for the times he was using them to save his live before he met her. She's on the line and he's using his powers in ways never before used in his life. It's still highly useful but not the God Mode upgrade he seemed to get after she got involved.

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    Wolverine's healing and bone claws coupled with teleportation. Hard to beat someone you can't kill or contain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    They didn't work like that for the times he was using them to save his live before he met her. She's on the line and he's using his powers in ways never before used in his life. It's still highly useful but not the God Mode upgrade he seemed to get after she got involved.
    Or, as a shiftless drifter with no purpose in life, meeting her just gave him something worth fighting for. Again, what makes this any different from being SUPER motivated?

    It's certainly better than giving the woman the heretofore unsubstantiated superpower of boosting precognition by her presence.

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    I take the teleportation, light saber and Obi wan force mastery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muramasa View Post
    First of all, I always thought Wolverine's healing factor was the shiznit because he survives nearly any injury up to and including a nuclear bomb,
    What movie was that? In the first movie getting whacked in the head was enough to keep him out for hours.

    Movie Wolvie's Regen is no where near as awesome as Comic wolverine's regen, though he did walk through a disintegration field.
    The MunchKING is Back! And he is AWSOME!

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    Just to be clear 'Tony Starks engineering skills (MCU)' would include things like computer engineering, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    Or, as a shiftless drifter with no purpose in life, meeting her just gave him something worth fighting for. Again, what makes this any different from being SUPER motivated?

    It's certainly better than giving the woman the heretofore unsubstantiated superpower of boosting precognition by her presence.
    Betty Ross has no powers to make Hulk stronger, but 'You Just Killed Betty' Hulk is far more angry and powerful than the norm. Next-Cage is no different than Hulk in this, or many other people who get a boost when their love is the one in the line of fire rather than themselves.

    World War Hulk feats don't count for normal Hulk for several reasons, one of which being 'They killed his wife & child, he's madder than ever'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    World War Hulk feats don't count for normal Hulk for several reasons, one of which being 'They killed his wife & child, he's madder than ever'.
    Oh, that's the least of it, I assure you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Oh, that's the least of it, I assure you.
    Don't I know it

    Still, the 'Power of Love' boost is quite popular. Bringing folks back from the brink of death or beyond, allowing them to face enemies that overwhelm them normally, giving them strength they never had before, etc.

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