X-Men Monday #32 10-14

[Diammandis]

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...f-x-questions/

[phoenixzero23]

So he said that Jean's costume does have an story reason.
Maybe she will go phoenix after all

[Stormultt Divine]

So he said that Jean's costume does have an story reason.
Maybe she will go phoenix after all

It's inevitable.
I trust Phoenix Jean with Hickman though.

[H-E-D]

I think that Hickman is eventually going to bring the franchise full circle, and have the X-Men find a way for the mutants to not lose, in a way that also puts a brighter outlook on their relationship with humanity. Think of how he started the Avengers with "Everything dies", and took them around to "Everything lives". (The emphasis on "losing" also reminds me of Valeria's whole bit of "you can't win, so figure out how not to lose")

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[Lapsus]

I think that Hickman is eventually going to bring the franchise full circle, and have the X-Men find a way for the mutants to not lose, in a way that also puts a brighter outlook on their relationship with humanity. Think of how he started the Avengers with "Everything dies", and took them around to "Everything lives". (The emphasis on "losing" also reminds me of Valeria's whole bit of "you can't win, so figure out how not to lose")

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I agree, now they are going to take a little divergence but eventually they are going back to "The Dream" maybe not 100% the same but enough to keep the message.

Or maybe Charles Xavier manage to conquer his baldness, grow a great brunette mane, declares himself God-Emperor of Mutantkind and lets begin the Great Crusade.

[JB]

I agree, now they are going to take a little divergence but eventually they are going back to "The Dream" maybe not 100% the same but enough to keep the message.

Or maybe Charles Xavier manage to conquer his baldness, grow a great brunette mane, declares himself God-Emperor of Mutantkind and lets begin the Great Crusade.

Agreed as well.

Haha, he had hair at the end of that Astonishing run and in the annual. I had been hoping when he finally removes Cerebro that he whips his long locks around in slo-mo.

[RachelGrey]

I agree, now they are going to take a little divergence but eventually they are going back to "The Dream" maybe not 100% the same but enough to keep the message.

Or maybe Charles Xavier manage to conquer his baldness, grow a great brunette mane, declares himself God-Emperor of Mutantkind and lets begin the Great Crusade.

Then he slowly changes into a great sandworm and controls all spice production in the entire universe, long live the God Emperor of Mutantkind!

[zinderel]

I think that Hickman is eventually going to bring the franchise full circle, and have the X-Men find a way for the mutants to not lose, in a way that also puts a brighter outlook on their relationship with humanity. Think of how he started the Avengers with "Everything dies", and took them around to "Everything lives". (The emphasis on "losing" also reminds me of Valeria's whole bit of "you can't win, so figure out how not to lose")

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I think this is the most likely outcome too. For now, Humanity is trash and mutants are reacting to them. By the end, things will be more balanced and 616 humanity will be less ignorant and stupid, allowing the X-Men to be heroes again, not always revolutionary freedom fighters or anti-genocidal strike forces.

I hope.

[Tycon]

murphy leigh (@_murphyleigh) asked: Can you explain why you’ve smashed Genosha, House of M, “Messiah Complex,” the Utopia period, the Schism, all of Wolverine and the X-Men, Secret Wars II, Civil War II, IVX, and Uncanny X-Men vol. 5 into a three-year period for Moira X? It doesn’t make sense in a book so fixed on time passing.

Jonathan: You’re right. The math doesn’t work. The math also doesn’t work for a single other long-running book in the Marvel universe.

I personally don’t believe that those things took place in that duration of time, but on a sliding continuity timeline, I’m also wrong.

I’ve said this elsewhere, but my editor Jordan White is completely convinced that Cyclops is in his late 20s. I’m convinced that he’s in his mid-30s (how could he not be?). But the truth is, depending on which story metrics you use, we’re both right and both wrong. It’s Schrödinger’s birthday. What are you going to do?

Maybe don’t stare at the sun.



Mitchell Haddad (@mitchhimself) asked: I want to ask Hickman if he believes the sum total of backed up memories and psionic engrams is the same as a mutant’s soul? I love this series but the scene with Storm welcoming the resurrected back sits uneasily in my mind.

Jonathan: The afterlife is ‘technically’ part of Marvel continuity (and Jack Kirby is ‘technically’ ‘God’), so if you want to make an argument that there’s strict Judeo-Christian set of post-death rules for a resurrection to result in a soul-reclaimed and soul-equipped being, then cool.

The problem is that we don’t do that. Almost every single character death we undo, or character we bring back through whatever story construct or general shenanigans doesn’t go on a soul quest to recover their essence (in the past, yes, sometimes, but not anymore–imagine if we did that nowadays in our current death-resurrection cycle, that’s a lotta issues).

Now, if you want to make the argument that recovering your soul is a lot like William Gibson’s explanation for jet lag (souls don’t travel at the same speed as planes so jet lag is just your body waiting for the soul to catch up), and it’s just floating around waiting to reattach itself to it’s rightful reanimated host, also cool.

But if that’s the case then what about duplicate copies, which one gets the soul? I dunno, that sounds like a story to me, but that’s also why they’re not allowing copies of characters on Krakoa. But what if there’s a mistake and you think someone’s dead, but make a copy anyway? Well, again, that sounds like a story… and we even have a series built around resurrection problems coming out next year.

The broader point is we bring back characters all the time in much less elegant ways, and this one is actually based on an experience Professor Xavier had in earlier X-Men comics, so it makes sense he would think of something like this. He knew it worked.

As for the reason it seems creepy, well, it feels that way because we did all the resurrections at (generally) the same time and presented it as a ceremonial. It feels religious. It feels other. It feels terrifying. Unless you’re them, and then it feels ascendant.

It feels like victory.

Anyway, the issue you’re looking for is (I think) X-Men #7 (it’s the one with Apocalypse and Nightcrawler on the cover). This will cover all the life-death-resurrection-soul questions.

[Hi-Fi]

So 2 new books coming up: one about Moira and other about the resurrections.

[Tycon]

A book that’s dealing with resurrection troubles, that’s gonna be super fun.

[Strong Girl Daken]

Woah there was a lot in this interview.

[phoenixzero23]

I'm still not a fan of skipping certain reunions. Many characters didn't see each other for years

[Hi-Fi]

Also, he implies that Monet being able to become Penance is a result of a resurrection so should we understand this is her second time through the process?

[Triniking1234]

"Jonathan: The list of Omega Level mutants is complete and set in stone. Anyone who isn’t on the list isn’t one, and there won’t be any new Omega Level characters created for quite some time. There are way too many overcooked characters as is right now. "