X-Men #1 Discussion Thread [Spoilers]

[spirit2011]

“What about the people who call homophobes homophobes? Aren’t they just heterophobes?!”
“Well, _I_ think that the real bigots are the ones who call other people bigoted.”

That is what you sound like right there, just so you know. And, to more directly answer your question, what about it? If you loudly complain and insult and demonize adults for their consensual relationships just because you don’t get it or ‘approve’ (as if any adult should care what anyone not directly involved in their relationship approves of...) then you ARE a prude. If you don’t like it, don’t watch. You don’t get to tell anyone else what THEY can do or like, though.

Those are fictional characters, I'm not offending anyone on real life

Also they have prior characterization that doesnt allow this freedom.
People are completely ignoring that.

[H-E-D]

Those are fictional characters, I'm not offending anyone on real life

Yeah, that's... that's not how it works. The offense comes from the sentiment, not the target.

[spirit2011]

Yeah, that's... that's not how it works. The offense comes from the sentiment, not the target.

Sure talking about storytelling have nothing to do with real life

[powerpax]

The real answer? The same reason Jean Grey has a seat: a white-knuckled grip on the deepest bits of nostalgia that would really signify change were it to slip.

What does that even mean? What are you talking about?

[zinderel]

Those are fictional characters, I'm not offending anyone on real life

Also they have prior characterization that doesnt allow this freedom.
People are completely ignoring that.

You have repeatedly characterized the POSSIBILITY of polyamory being presented as normal and fine in horrible ways. And by characterizing the POSSIBILITY as gross or disgusting or wrong or perverted, you tell poly people reading what you post that they are those things. By saying the same words to anyone who thinks a poly setup would be interesting, you reinforce that you find polyamory to be those things. That makes you look like both a prude and a bigot.

It is NOT. A good look.

[spirit2011]

You have repeatedly characterized the POSSIBILITY of polyamory being presented as normal and fine in horrible ways. You do not own these characters. You do not write these characters. You do not get to dictate what they do or do not do. And by characterizingvthe POSSIBILITY as gross or disgusting or wrong or perverted, you tell poly people reading what you post that they are gross, or disgusting or wrong or perverted.

It is NOT. A good look.

I dont own but there is out of character behavior. Marvel cant change that, you cant change.

I didnt wrote any of that, also people need to separate

[yellow cyclone]

What does that even mean? What are you talking about?

probably the most (in)famous love triangle in marvel comics

[Steroid]

Amazing that a floor plan for a house has brought so much drama. Hickman's data pages are all powerful.

[zinderel]

I dont own but there is out of character behavior. Marvel cant change that, you cant change.

I didnt wrote any of that, also people need to separate

You don’t get to dictate what is in or out of character. What is on paper is what is on paper. It is canon. Unless we are told otherwise on paper or in canon, what we see characters say and do is what they say and do. The author and the editors determine what is in character. And frankly, I don’t see much out of character here. I see that you don’t like it, but that doesn’t make it bad or out of character.

[gifted]

Wow. What a fantastic read this was. The dialogue and the pace. Marvel, the X-Office, and Hickman are really going all out by wanting to make this the next seminal moment in X-Men history.

The ideas are so fresh and grand. This is what I've always wanted for the X-Men. If anyone ever recalls my posts in all of those "make your own team" or "revamp the X-Men" threads-- I always stated I wanted the X-Men to rebuild Genosha with stories that focused on mutant society and civilization. Their economy, politics, culture, etc. And Hickman is doing just that, but way beyond what I imagined.

This is absolutely breathtaking and exactly what the X-Men needed. Whether you like it or not, it's generating plenty of conversation in all mediums.

I'm all for the Age of Krakoa.

[spirit2011]

You don’t get to dictate what is in or out of character. What is on paper is what is on paper. It is canon. Unless we are told otherwise on paper or in canon, what we see characters say and do is what they say and do. The author and the editors determine what is in character. And frankly, I don’t see much out of character here. I see that you don’t like it, but that doesn’t make it bad or out of character.

These characters have story, nothing say they are poliamor much the contrary, thery are mono. Anything else is fan wishing and cheap retcons

[TheDeadSpace]

Amazing that a floor plan for a house has brought so much drama. Hickman's data pages are all powerful.

He must have surely known.

[Marvelman]

One of those spare rooms is probably for Sinister. Actually, i want creepy sinister spying on other characters from the bushes to become a recurring thing.

I kept imagining Sinister was going to crash the party!

[powerpax]

probably the most (in)famous love triangle in marvel comics

Yes, a love triangle that now seems to have moved past nostalgia into three or four dimensions, thanks to the Sinister Secrets, some key panels in HoX, and this issue.

[zinderel]

These characters have story, nothing say they are poliamor much the contrary, thery are mono. Anything else is fan wishing and cheap retcons

God forbid relationships or characters evolve past your own prejudices...