X-Men #1 Discussion Thread [Spoilers]

[Domino_Dare-Doll]

Well, when you have Storm who is canonically one if the nicest and most accepting people on Earth stomping around a place calling humans a conquered species who should beg for mercy they don't deserve, that goes from being a red flag to "flee to Canada. Just do it."

Is that why Arako's floating back in?...Is that gonna be Mutant-Canada?

[spirit2011]

I guess the two writers who wrote the best Jean dont know her as well as spirit2011.

This still doesn't proof anything. Maybe that jean would like to watch porn and that she kissed Logan because she was feeling bad

She had a relapse most likely. I think in one of the diagrams it explained that once you're infected as an Omega, you're screwed.

it will reverse to original programing.

this time they got karima right color skin

[jwatson]

Well, when you have Storm who is canonically one if the nicest and most accepting people on Earth stomping around a place calling humans a conquered species who should beg for mercy they don't deserve, that goes from being a red flag to "flee to Canada. Just do it."

But then you have in the same issue Storm putting herself in a vunerable state to make sure a Post Human was alright. So how can one exist and the other not? She didn't need to kneel to the girls level to speak with her. Would someone do that to a person they thought should beg for mercy if they were talking about everyone.

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

We dont talk abt Woods run. Garbage.

I see it as a great run written by a garbage person. He really let so many people down.

[JKtheMac]

So is no one going to talk about Karima? What happened to her? Last we saw of her, her sentinel tech had been inert and she was capable of having it removed but now she seems even more machine than ever before. Plus that blank look in her eyes. Just what's gone on with her since Wood's X-Men?

I think it was implied heavily by the associated text on Omega Mutants. That despite everyone insisting she was cured there just isn’t one. It fits with the theme that if humans go down the enhanced cybernetics and genetics route they are dooming themselves to a post-human future that most of us would consider a bad fate for humanity.

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

But then you have in the same issue Storm putting herself in a vunerable state to make sure a Post Human was alright. So how can one exist and the other not? She didn't need to kneel to the girls level to speak with her. Would someone do that to a person they thought should beg for mercy if they were talking about everyone.

Well, you could make an argument that Storm has more in common with that vaulter than she does with baseline humanity. Plus, she's a nurturer at heart. You can't wave a weak little kid in front of her and not expect her to do something. Look at Kitty, Jubilee, Gentle, and leach for examples

[RachelGrey]

I think it was implied heavily by the associated text on Omega Mutants. That despite everyone insisting she was cured there just isn’t one. It fits with the theme that if humans go down the enhanced cybernetics and genetics route they are dooming themselves to a post-human future that most of us would consider a bad fate for humanity.

The sad part is I wonder how much Karima is left and how much is Omega Sentinel programming now. We saw that scene where she opened her head up for a moment and she looks like she is majority machine. I know the Omega Sentinel process continues until it dominates the original host, I honestly don't know if Karima will ever come back from her current state.

[RachelGrey]

Well, you could make an argument that Storm has more in common with that vaulter than she does with baseline humanity. Plus, she's a nurturer at heart. You can't wave a weak little kid in front of her and not expect her to do something. Look at Kitty, Jubilee, Gentle, and leach for examples

I think Storm was talking about the Orchis agents more than anything. I am sure when she visits Wakanda or other countries she doesn't act that way. But when you are facing people who are creating anti-mutant weapons you kind of feel a bit different about them.

[JKtheMac]

The sad part is I wonder how much Karima is left and how much is Omega Sentinel programming now. We saw that scene where she opened her head up for a moment and she looks like she is majority machine. I know the Omega Sentinel process continues until it dominates the original host, I honestly don't know if Karima will ever come back from her current state.

Well we saw a terribly rendered open head as a non sequitur which made me annoyed by the art, but yes I do wonder if there will be some kind of redemption for her. I hope so, but I don’t think it will be easily earned.

[JKtheMac]

I think Storm was talking about the Orchis agents more than anything. I am sure when she visits Wakanda or other countries she doesn't act that way. But when you are facing people who are creating anti-mutant weapons you kind of feel a bit different about them.

Whatever would make her so judgemental about the guys shooting her while shouting ‘death to all mutants’.

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

Karima's scary, but it's not like they don't have an easy answer for her. Pixie took her out for a year with just one soul dagger poke.

[Triniking1234]

exactly so what? lol. i said what i said and you seemed to want some kind of expulsion on it. otherwise why just repeat it after saying the church is not a good example. I don't understand the point you were making or trying to make or if there was one.

I presented the Krakoa situation as someone owning property and controlling who can enter and leave that property. You presented another un-related example of the church not allowing gay members to practice and tried to present it as since I support Krakoa and keeping people you don't like off your property that I'm "pro-exclusion" in general and I'm against gay people being allowed in church.

That's pretty much defamatory and foul play so all you get is a "so what?"

[RachelGrey]

Karima's scary, but it's not like they don't have an easy answer for her. Pixie took her out for a year with just one soul dagger poke.

I like happy endings so I kind of hope we find out that Karima is a double agent. It's not like Xavier hasn't used double agents before, he used Tessa/Sage as his agent inside the Hellfire Club for years.

[jwatson]

I presented the Krakoa situation as someone owning property and controlling who can enter and leave that property. You presented another un-related example of the church not allowing gay members to practice and tried to present it as since I support Krakoa and keeping people you don't like off your property that I'm "pro-exclusion" in general and I'm against gay people being allowed in church.

That's pretty much defamatory and foul play so all you get is a "so what?"

oh lol. That's how you took it. I was talking about those who don't support krakoa not allowing people on their private property but are proably okay with the church not letting gay people run service. So i was supporting what you were saying not contradicting it.

[Triniking1234]

oh lol. That's how you took it. I was talking about those who don't support krakoa not allowing people on their private property but are proably okay with the church not letting gay people run service. So i was supporting what you were saying not contradicting it.

Seems there was a misinterpretation on my part. My apologies.