J.J. Abrams, Henry Abrams and Sara Pichelli's Spider-Man #2

[Mister Mets]

The second issue of J.J. Abrams, Henry Abrams & Sara Pichelli's I] Spider-Man [/I]mini-series seems to have come in with little notice. No one's talking about it here, and none of the websites I follow on my RSS reader mentioned it. Comic Book Roundup lists five reviews so far, one more than Guardians of the Galaxy and one less than the latest issue of the Kieron Gillen/ Dan Mora's creator-owned series Once & Future.

I thought it was okay.

Comics The Gathering has a relatively positive review.

This is Peter Parker but unlike we’ve ever seen him before. The focus here is on his teenage son Ben. It lives in its own continuity which makes it quite accessible for casual readers, many of whom will be drawn in by the fact it’s J.J. Abrams.

One of the interesting things going on in the background is the fall of Peter Parker, who is almost unrecognisable. One of Peter’s strengths is that he always gets back up, always keep on fighting, but here is a Peter who didn’t. The loss of Mary Jane was too devastating.

There is a new take on the classic “With great power comes great responsibility” which of course goes hand in hand with Spider-Man. Another example of a classic Spider-Man trope becoming brand new.
A big part of the story is the relationship between Peter and Ben, which is almost non-existent. I find this quite an interesting choice when the writing is a collaboration between father and son, although that helps to give the relationship a little more authenticity.

The art by Sara Pichelli is good, she has plenty of experience drawing Spider-Man as the first artist for Miles Morales. She is just as comfortable drawing scenes of devastation (the first few pages of #1 in particular spring to mind) as she is drawing quiet scenes in May’s house, or action scenes with Spider-Man swinging around the city.

What did you guys think?

[Jman27]

well besides the nepotism comments I seen from here and Reddit this issue was ok nothing amazing pun intended

[boots]

The second issue of J.J. Abrams & company's Spider-Man #2 seems to have come in with little notice. No one's talking about it here, and none of the websites I follow on my RSS reader mentioned it. Comic Book Roundup lists five reviews so far.
I thought it was okay.

Comics The Gathering has a relatively positive review.



What did you guys think?

i think peter has to stop naming his kids after dead people

[Jman27]

i think peter has to stop naming his kids after dead people

well the spirit of Ben Parker must live on

[boots]

well the spirit of Ben Parker must live on

shoulda just named his kid uncle

[Revolutionary_Jack]

I actually did think the issue was an improvement on the first one. Good mix of action and movement.

The only problem is...Benny Parker is not a likable character. Sure his Dad is a d--k but there's nothing to Benny that distinguishes him aside from "Generic white teen". He has no personality. Likewise Faye Ito feels Manic Pixie Dreamgirl-ish...and that personality doesn't make sense because that works when you pair that kind of girl with a guy who is really uptight and repressed (for instance Benny's parents). The problem is Benny is presented as a "totally cool guy" and so on. It's highly reminiscent of Garfield in Amazing Spider-Man which I think is the influence here.

Peter Parker continues to be so unappealing that I actually think he should be a legit villain in this story. It's also unbelievable that Peter would become a photographer taking pictures of accidents and terrorist attacks and not want to step in somehow especially in a world where the Avengers are toast.

[Hugo Strange]

That boy really needs a father. If he continues in that way, around that kind of people, he will become a criminal.

[Agent Z]

I actually did think the issue was an improvement on the first one. Good mix of action and movement.

The only problem is...Benny Parker is not a likable character. Sure his Dad is a d--k but there's nothing to Benny that distinguishes him aside from "Generic white teen". He has no personality. Likewise Faye Ito feels Manic Pixie Dreamgirl-ish...and that personality doesn't make sense because that works when you pair that kind of girl with a guy who is really uptight and repressed (for instance Benny's parents). The problem is Benny is presented as a "totally cool guy" and so on. It's highly reminiscent of Garfield in Amazing Spider-Man which I think is the influence here.

Peter Parker continues to be so unappealing that I actually think he should be a legit villain in this story. It's also unbelievable that Peter would become a photographer taking pictures of accidents and terrorist attacks and not want to step in somehow especially in a world where the Avengers are toast.

He has only one arm.

[Snoop Dogg]

"I can't give up now! Abraham Lincoln Parker is counting on me!"

[boots]

"I can't give up now! Abraham Lincoln Parker is counting on me!"

and just like that...i'm proven wrong

[jackolover]

The first issue? I was intrigued by the off-beat approach to the character.

The second issue? This was more like 1962 over again. No super heroes, a reluctant hero. This Faye Ito? She is like this fantastic narrator or conscience that is verbally saying what is missing in this Alternate universe. I have been waiting for somebody to re-ignite the ANAD like it was starting again in 1961, and it has failed miserably up to now. All the ANAD is doing is rehashing tired old tropes from the day, but nobody ever immersed us in something as fresh and with as much delineation of a heroless society as the two Abrams have. They couldn’t have achieved this story in its form, in the ANAD. They had to take it out of the ANAD and lay it out flat with this new boy who doesn’t want to be a freak.... BUT THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM TOO!

So, to me, this is Ultimate Spider-Man take two - a mixture of Bendis’ USM and Spidergirl’s MC2. But really? It’s what I’ve been looking for. A Spider-Man story that doesn’t have the legacy of the 616 Peter Parker. Someone just opened a doorway into a world where all the heroes are missing. Suddenly, out steps the first Super Hero. The Earth shakes.

(I’ve read the negative comments of Marvel movies by Coppola and Scorsese, and they must be unable to separate mega movies from the message embedded inside the Marvel ones. Coppola, I’m surprised at. He has more ambiance to Marvel because of his “Black Stallion” movie. Scorsese, he is steeped in brutality, so I understand his disconnection.

This Abrams cooperation on Spider-Man may show them another way).

[WebSlingWonder]

The first issue? I was intrigued by the off-beat approach to the character.

The second issue? This was more like 1962 over again. No super heroes, a reluctant hero. This Faye Ito? She is like this fantastic narrator or conscience that is verbally saying what is missing in this Alternate universe. I have been waiting for somebody to re-ignite the ANAD like it was starting again in 1961, and it has failed miserably up to now. All the ANAD is doing is rehashing tired old tropes from the day, but nobody ever immersed us in something as fresh and with as much delineation of a heroless society as the two Abrams have. They couldn’t have achieved this story in its form, in the ANAD. They had to take it out of the ANAD and lay it out flat with this new boy who doesn’t want to be a freak.... BUT THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM TOO!

So, to me, this is Ultimate Spider-Man take two - a mixture of Bendis’ USM and Spidergirl’s MC2. But really? It’s what I’ve been looking for. A Spider-Man story that doesn’t have the legacy of the 616 Peter Parker. Someone just opened a doorway into a world where all the heroes are missing. Suddenly, out steps the first Super Hero. The Earth shakes.

(I’ve read the negative comments of Marvel movies by Coppola and Scorsese, and they must be unable to separate mega movies from the message embedded inside the Marvel ones. Coppola, I’m surprised at. He has more ambiance to Marvel because of his “Black Stallion” movie. Scorsese, he is steeped in brutality, so I understand his disconnection.

This Abrams cooperation on Spider-Man may show them another way).

I'm just glad to meet someone else who likes the series! Finally!

[NC_Yankee]

The first issue? I was intrigued by the off-beat approach to the character.

The second issue? This was more like 1962 over again. No super heroes, a reluctant hero. This Faye Ito? She is like this fantastic narrator or conscience that is verbally saying what is missing in this Alternate universe. I have been waiting for somebody to re-ignite the ANAD like it was starting again in 1961, and it has failed miserably up to now. All the ANAD is doing is rehashing tired old tropes from the day, but nobody ever immersed us in something as fresh and with as much delineation of a heroless society as the two Abrams have. They couldn’t have achieved this story in its form, in the ANAD. They had to take it out of the ANAD and lay it out flat with this new boy who doesn’t want to be a freak.... BUT THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM TOO!

So, to me, this is Ultimate Spider-Man take two - a mixture of Bendis’ USM and Spidergirl’s MC2. But really? It’s what I’ve been looking for. A Spider-Man story that doesn’t have the legacy of the 616 Peter Parker. Someone just opened a doorway into a world where all the heroes are missing. Suddenly, out steps the first Super Hero. The Earth shakes.

(I’ve read the negative comments of Marvel movies by Coppola and Scorsese, and they must be unable to separate mega movies from the message embedded inside the Marvel ones. Coppola, I’m surprised at. He has more ambiance to Marvel because of his “Black Stallion” movie. Scorsese, he is steeped in brutality, so I understand his disconnection.

This Abrams cooperation on Spider-Man may show them another way).

To be honest, both Scorsese and Coppola have lots iof violence in their films ( Coppola's The Godfather Saga is not exactly Mary Poppins ( nor are films like Casino or Goodfellas by Scorsrse)). Personally, I. Do not disagree with their opinion on Marvel because despite the money they made. Why? 1:: Organized crime is my favorite film genre ( from Cagney, Bogart and Robinson to today's films). 2: I think DCU films beat Marvel. Such as Constantine, Dark Knight Series, Keaton Batman, RED, Aquaman, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman. In fact, I think the only DC films that suck are Superman 4, Jonas Hex, Hallie Berry Catwoman and Clooney Batman

[jackolover]

To be honest, both Scorsese and Coppola have lots iof violence in their films ( Coppola's The Godfather Saga is not exactly Mary Poppins ( nor are films like Casino or Goodfellas by Scorsrse)). Personally, I. Do not disagree with their opinion on Marvel because despite the money they made. Why? 1:: Organized crime is my favorite film genre ( from Cagney, Bogart and Robinson to today's films). 2: I think DCU films beat Marvel. Such as Constantine, Dark Knight Series, Keaton Batman, RED, Aquaman, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman. In fact, I think the only DC films that suck are Superman 4, Jonas Hex, Hallie Berry Catwoman and Clooney Batman

I agree with you on DCU films Aquaman, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and a surprising, wonderful, Catwoman. And yes, Copppola’s Godfather is just so negative about human nature. Marvel takes human nature and lets you feel good about yourself.

[chachi]

so issue 3 is delayed until December 18th, Issue 4 till late February. Wonder why? Art, rewrites?