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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman Begins 2005 View Post
    Superior Spider-Man as well. Saddened it's coming to an end.
    Agreed! Issue 8 i think, the issue he gets the key to the city, was one of the best reflections of what someone like Otto could be going through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdman3000 View Post
    Probably not.

    In all seriousness, Iím curious how massive a drop in sales Issue 2 is going to have from Issue 1. Iím expecting theyíll be one but considering how pretty much a lot of people are saying everywhere I can see that they dropped the series after the first issue, Iím honestly expecting a pretty sharp drop in sales at this point.
    I am still curious what the brick and mortar stores were told about the series when they were asked to place their orders. Marvel released previews for 3 issues of very clear Spider-Man & MJ action, and then pulled a bait and switch. How many of the retailers cut their orders after issue #1 was released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit2051 View Post
    I am still curious what the brick and mortar stores were told about the series when they were asked to place their orders. Marvel released previews for 3 issues of very clear Spider-Man & MJ action, and then pulled a bait and switch. How many of the retailers cut their orders after issue #1 was released?
    I'll ask my shop about it but given it's a Spider book and they're kind of big, I'd suspect they'd carry it anyways. Shops don't (or at least shouldn't) order with personal bias in mind. Though the shop I go to does recommend its employees read something to help inform the ordering so maybe it might carry some weight. That being said I'd probably not find out until tomorrow or Wednesday.
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    The first issue? I was intrigued by the off-beat approach to the character.

    The second issue? This was more like 1962 over again. No super heroes, a reluctant hero. This Faye Ito? She is like this fantastic narrator or conscience that is verbally saying what is missing in this Alternate universe. I have been waiting for somebody to re-ignite the ANAD like it was starting again in 1961, and it has failed miserably up to now. All the ANAD is doing is rehashing tired old tropes from the day, but nobody ever immersed us in something as fresh and with as much delineation of a heroless society as the two Abrams have. They couldn’t have achieved this story in its form, in the ANAD. They had to take it out of the ANAD and lay it out flat with this new boy who doesn’t want to be a freak.... BUT THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM TOO!

    So, to me, this is Ultimate Spider-Man take two - a mixture of Bendis’ USM and Spidergirl’s MC2. But really? It’s what I’ve been looking for. A Spider-Man story that doesn’t have the legacy of the 616 Peter Parker. Someone just opened a doorway into a world where all the heroes are missing. Suddenly, out steps the first Super Hero. The Earth shakes.

    (I’ve read the negative comments of Marvel movies by Coppola and Scorsese, and they must be unable to separate mega movies from the message embedded inside the Marvel ones. Coppola, I’m surprised at. He has more ambiance to Marvel because of his “Black Stallion” movie. Scorsese, he is steeped in brutality, so I understand his disconnection.

    This Abrams cooperation on Spider-Man may show them another way).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSlingWonder View Post
    I like this book, actually. It's different, despite feeling similar to other stuff done before. Some of the dialogue does need work though, like the way Faye and Benny talk seems out of tune with ninth graders lol But I like the way that Benny is being set up as a legacy hero. It's the typical hero's journey.

    My only complaint is really how speedy this issue was. He just discovered his powers a few days ago in the story, finds the suit, refuses to wear it, then tries it on for a date, swings for the first time, and then saves someone's life. All in like two days. That's incredibly fast. Like, really fast. It's like the writers skipped over some of the extra development that would happen with Benny's character to get him to that point because the first issue lacked so much action. You know?
    To me, I was happy with how Ben was forced by Faye to confront he has a duty, and get on with it, because of her overbubbly ecstatic discovery of a super hero. I liked the pace at how Ben sort of rolled into the super heroing. Ben was sort of pulled along in this story to go where he didnít want to go. Iíve experienced this myself in just this sort of setting. You donít know where youíre going, you just go with the flow, and itís exilerating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    The first issue? I was intrigued by the off-beat approach to the character.

    The second issue? This was more like 1962 over again. No super heroes, a reluctant hero. This Faye Ito? She is like this fantastic narrator or conscience that is verbally saying what is missing in this Alternate universe. I have been waiting for somebody to re-ignite the ANAD like it was starting again in 1961, and it has failed miserably up to now. All the ANAD is doing is rehashing tired old tropes from the day, but nobody ever immersed us in something as fresh and with as much delineation of a heroless society as the two Abrams have. They couldn’t have achieved this story in its form, in the ANAD. They had to take it out of the ANAD and lay it out flat with this new boy who doesn’t want to be a freak.... BUT THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM TOO!

    So, to me, this is Ultimate Spider-Man take two - a mixture of Bendis’ USM and Spidergirl’s MC2. But really? It’s what I’ve been looking for. A Spider-Man story that doesn’t have the legacy of the 616 Peter Parker. Someone just opened a doorway into a world where all the heroes are missing. Suddenly, out steps the first Super Hero. The Earth shakes.

    (I’ve read the negative comments of Marvel movies by Coppola and Scorsese, and they must be unable to separate mega movies from the message embedded inside the Marvel ones. Coppola, I’m surprised at. He has more ambiance to Marvel because of his “Black Stallion” movie. Scorsese, he is steeped in brutality, so I understand his disconnection.

    This Abrams cooperation on Spider-Man may show them another way).
    I'm just glad to meet someone else who likes the series! Finally!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    The first issue? I was intrigued by the off-beat approach to the character.

    The second issue? This was more like 1962 over again. No super heroes, a reluctant hero. This Faye Ito? She is like this fantastic narrator or conscience that is verbally saying what is missing in this Alternate universe. I have been waiting for somebody to re-ignite the ANAD like it was starting again in 1961, and it has failed miserably up to now. All the ANAD is doing is rehashing tired old tropes from the day, but nobody ever immersed us in something as fresh and with as much delineation of a heroless society as the two Abrams have. They couldn’t have achieved this story in its form, in the ANAD. They had to take it out of the ANAD and lay it out flat with this new boy who doesn’t want to be a freak.... BUT THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM TOO!

    So, to me, this is Ultimate Spider-Man take two - a mixture of Bendis’ USM and Spidergirl’s MC2. But really? It’s what I’ve been looking for. A Spider-Man story that doesn’t have the legacy of the 616 Peter Parker. Someone just opened a doorway into a world where all the heroes are missing. Suddenly, out steps the first Super Hero. The Earth shakes.

    (I’ve read the negative comments of Marvel movies by Coppola and Scorsese, and they must be unable to separate mega movies from the message embedded inside the Marvel ones. Coppola, I’m surprised at. He has more ambiance to Marvel because of his “Black Stallion” movie. Scorsese, he is steeped in brutality, so I understand his disconnection.

    This Abrams cooperation on Spider-Man may show them another way).
    To be honest, both Scorsese and Coppola have lots iof violence in their films ( Coppola's The Godfather Saga is not exactly Mary Poppins ( nor are films like Casino or Goodfellas by Scorsrse)). Personally, I. Do not disagree with their opinion on Marvel because despite the money they made. Why? 1:: Organized crime is my favorite film genre ( from Cagney, Bogart and Robinson to today's films). 2: I think DCU films beat Marvel. Such as Constantine, Dark Knight Series, Keaton Batman, RED, Aquaman, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman. In fact, I think the only DC films that suck are Superman 4, Jonas Hex, Hallie Berry Catwoman and Clooney Batman
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    Quote Originally Posted by your_name_here View Post
    Really not for me. I gave this issue a try after not enjoying the first just to see if it improved. It didn’t. I’m out.
    Yeah, it's not for me. I love Spider-Man because he doesn't give up. He can't give up. His sense of responsibility can't let him give up. It's how he keeps his uncle's memory alive and rights the wrong that killed him. I'd assume that's partially why he named his son Ben. So it's tough to read a version of the character that gave up completely, even on raising his son. He's gave up on Aunt May, MJ, his son, and the city. What a loser...

    Also, like what was MJ doing on the bridge? Really didn't care for that first issue. Didn't care for Pichelli's depiction of her dying. Color me old fashioned but that was a bit much for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanParkerMan View Post
    Yeah, it's not for me. I love Spider-Man because he doesn't give up. He can't give up. His sense of responsibility can't let him give up. It's how he keeps his uncle's memory alive and rights the wrong that killed him. I'd assume that's partially why he named his son Ben. So it's tough to read a version of the character that gave up completely, even on raising his son. He's not Aunt May, MJ, his son, and the city down. What a loser...

    Also, like what was MJ doing on the bridge? Really didn't care for that first issue. Didn't care for Pichelli's depiction of her dying. Color me old fashioned but that was a bit much for me.
    I would throw in Black Cat as Asian. Made me think of Cindy ( and I despise Silk).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC_Yankee View Post
    I would throw in Black Cat as Asian. Made me think of Cindy ( and I despise Silk).
    I find it interesting, given OMD, how keen Marvel is to give Peter Parker more children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC_Yankee View Post
    I would throw in Black Cat as Asian. Made me think of Cindy ( and I despise Silk).
    I must have missed the part where Black Cat showed up.

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    This was ok. I found the writing and plot to be a bit rudimentary, though, making it very predictable. The art is fooling me into thinking its better than it really is, so I'm probably dropping it now.
    Every day is a gift, not a given right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    The first issue? I was intrigued by the off-beat approach to the character.

    The second issue? This was more like 1962 over again. No super heroes, a reluctant hero. This Faye Ito? She is like this fantastic narrator or conscience that is verbally saying what is missing in this Alternate universe. I have been waiting for somebody to re-ignite the ANAD like it was starting again in 1961, and it has failed miserably up to now. All the ANAD is doing is rehashing tired old tropes from the day, but nobody ever immersed us in something as fresh and with as much delineation of a heroless society as the two Abrams have. They couldn’t have achieved this story in its form, in the ANAD. They had to take it out of the ANAD and lay it out flat with this new boy who doesn’t want to be a freak.... BUT THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM TOO!

    So, to me, this is Ultimate Spider-Man take two - a mixture of Bendis’ USM and Spidergirl’s MC2. But really? It’s what I’ve been looking for. A Spider-Man story that doesn’t have the legacy of the 616 Peter Parker. Someone just opened a doorway into a world where all the heroes are missing. Suddenly, out steps the first Super Hero. The Earth shakes.

    (I’ve read the negative comments of Marvel movies by Coppola and Scorsese, and they must be unable to separate mega movies from the message embedded inside the Marvel ones. Coppola, I’m surprised at. He has more ambiance to Marvel because of his “Black Stallion” movie. Scorsese, he is steeped in brutality, so I understand his disconnection.

    This Abrams cooperation on Spider-Man may show them another way).
    That's an interesting view of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NC_Yankee View Post
    To be honest, both Scorsese and Coppola have lots iof violence in their films ( Coppola's The Godfather Saga is not exactly Mary Poppins ( nor are films like Casino or Goodfellas by Scorsrse)). Personally, I. Do not disagree with their opinion on Marvel because despite the money they made. Why? 1:: Organized crime is my favorite film genre ( from Cagney, Bogart and Robinson to today's films). 2: I think DCU films beat Marvel. Such as Constantine, Dark Knight Series, Keaton Batman, RED, Aquaman, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman. In fact, I think the only DC films that suck are Superman 4, Jonas Hex, Hallie Berry Catwoman and Clooney Batman
    I agree with you on DCU films Aquaman, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and a surprising, wonderful, Catwoman. And yes, Copppola’s Godfather is just so negative about human nature. Marvel takes human nature and lets you feel good about yourself.

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    so issue 3 is delayed until December 18th, Issue 4 till late February. Wonder why? Art, rewrites?

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