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    Default Not welcome: Precog Mutants (POX 6 spoilers)

    So Moira MacTaggert does not want any Precog mutants on Krakoa, meaning they will not bring Destiny back to life.

    But what does that mean for Negasonic Teenage Warhead? Will she have to stay away? And what about Blindfold? Does that mean she will also not be brought back to life?

    I think Gateway had also Precog powers, so also he might suffer from Moira's demands. Who else is a victim here?

    Let's discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Sound View Post
    So Moira MacTaggert does not want any Precog mutants on Krakoa, meaning they will not bring Destiny back to life.

    But what does that mean for Negasonic Teenage Warhead? Will she have to stay away? And what about Blindfold? Does that mean she will also not be brought back to life?

    I think Gateway had also Precog powers, so also he might suffer from Moira's demands. Who else is a victim here?

    Let's discuss.
    NTW isnt a precog anymore, she was given Deadpool movie powers, it happened in a Bunn book, not very good

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    With Blindfold, there's also the moral issue of bringing back someone who killed herself. A precog, nonetheless.
    I doubt it was planned that way, but in-universe, she probably knew something about Dawn of X and wanted no part in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factor View Post
    With Blindfold, there's also the moral issue of bringing back someone who killed herself. A precog, nonetheless.
    I doubt it was planned that way, but in-universe, she probably knew something about Dawn of X and wanted no part in it.
    How do you know she didn't kill herself in the knowledge she'd just be brought back ?
    After all, she knew she was going to die - painfully - and probably wanted to avoid THAT.

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    I wouldn't mind precogs working for human governments after some realise that they're being denied entry to Krakoa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Factor View Post
    With Blindfold, there's also the moral issue of bringing back someone who killed herself. A precog, nonetheless.
    I doubt it was planned that way, but in-universe, she probably knew something about Dawn of X and wanted no part in it.
    Frankly that just make's Ruth's death come across as even MORE tasteless, if that's even possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    Frankly that just make's Ruth's death come across as even MORE tasteless, if that's even possible.
    I'm not sure it makes it tasteless. I think it makes it very sad that Ruth probably foresaw that there would be a world that was a utopia for most mutants, but because of who she is, she would not be able to take part in it.

    I think there's a very definitive feeling that even though mutants are apparently free and everything is fine, some people are still going to be discriminated against. You don't have the right power, you aren't enough of a mutant, your got your powers the wrong way, etc.

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    Precogs ruin Krakoan board game night, cos they already know who's going to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    I'm not sure it makes it tasteless. I think it makes it very sad that Ruth probably foresaw that there would be a world that was a utopia for most mutants, but because of who she is, she would not be able to take part in it.

    I think there's a very definitive feeling that even though mutants are apparently free and everything is fine, some people are still going to be discriminated against. You don't have the right power, you aren't enough of a mutant, your got your powers the wrong way, etc.
    This definitely makes her death more upsetting. It also makes me wonder, considering we've been told that everything is connected, if Ruth was placed in a position in which she needed to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Sound View Post
    Who else is a victim here?
    Preview. Depowered on M-Day, and inexplicably not on the bus that got blown up even though her sister Network was. Even if she got her powers back, she'd not be welcome on Krakoa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    I'm not sure it makes it tasteless. I think it makes it very sad that Ruth probably foresaw that there would be a world that was a utopia for most mutants, but because of who she is, she would not be able to take part in it.

    I think there's a very definitive feeling that even though mutants are apparently free and everything is fine, some people are still going to be discriminated against. You don't have the right power, you aren't enough of a mutant, your got your powers the wrong way, etc.
    Yeah, Ruth killed herself because she saw no good future for herself.
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    It's a good thing that Betsy lost her precognitive flashes

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    What about non mutant precogs like that inhuman dude or Madam Web

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    What about non mutant precogs like that inhuman dude or Madam Web
    Well, duh, they certainly aren't allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    Well, duh, they certainly aren't allowed.
    But they can see Moira

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    What about non mutant precogs like that inhuman dude or Madam Web
    Even assuming someone salvages Ulysses from limbo in the future, he is A) probably be more focused on the hole Ike’s vendetta wrote the Inhumans as an IP into and B) not a precog in the way Destiny or Veil are. He’s calculates probable realities/outcomes which, while probably great for trying to map out the future of an enclosed inhuman society, can be manipulated (see Hydra!Cap) or fooled (again, Hydra!Cap)

    As for Web, didn’t the destruction of the Web of Life and Destiny deactivate her powers?

    Mystical precog could be a problem, namely Agatha... and Wanda

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