Amazons and the origins

[AmiMizuno]

I'm curious so far we have Aphrodite making them and the gods we reincarnating them. But what if it started off has mortal women? That the way they became the Amazons was because of the female goddesses? That all the main goddesses were calling them to start a new movement? I one don't want this to be the mainline origin rather an elsewhere story. A what-if story.

[Pinsir]

In the Golden Age (Likely Silver Age and Bronze age too), they were just a tribe of women. I don't think its ever implied they were created, though Hippolyta is still somehow immortal (Though in the Silver Age, Wonder Woman is also thousands of years old).

FYI, the Golden Age origin is the only origin to the Amazons I like.

[kjn]

In the Golden Age (Likely Silver Age and Bronze age too), they were just a tribe of women. I don't think its ever implied they were created, though Hippolyta is still somehow immortal (Though in the Silver Age, Wonder Woman is also thousands of years old).

FYI, the Golden Age origin is the only origin to the Amazons I like.

Wonder Woman #1 has the following panel:

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So from the beginning the Amazons were the direct creation of Aphrodite.

[Pinsir]

Wonder Woman #1 has the following panel:

Wonder Woman - The Golden Age - c011x2 (v01) - p146.jpg

So from the beginning the Amazons were the direct creation of Aphrodite.

Okay, I must have head cannoned them to be regular women. Whenever I think of Golden Age Amazons I go to Wonder Woman #9 and in that issue they kind of are just an all-woman tribe.

I would prefer it if they were regular women though. They don't gain anything from being created, if anything, it takes a lot of things away. If they're created beings then their value system and achievements matter less.

I reread the pertinent content from Wonder Woman #1 and the story just has some issues. How does Aphrodite elevate women by creating a stronger, distinct form of woman? This also conflicts with some later Golden Age stories where Amazons are shown to be stronger because of their training. (This is probably another reason why I thought the amazons were just normal people. Its the same sort of logic I apply to Wonder Woman's current powers and how they make no sense, since she's still a demi-god, but in Rebirth she receives her powers from the gods, meaning she is essentially a demi-god with no powers. [Though maybe if one is desperate enough, they can claim the gods "unlocked" her powers])

[Koriand'r]

This is the only origin of the Amazons I care about.

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It's simple, poetic and doesn't need improving.

[LordUltimus]

Mythology has Hippolyta and her sisters as the daughters of Ares. Any thoughts?

Like, the Perez version had the Amazons as ressurected souls of killed women. Maybe the original of Hippolyta was the daughter of Ares?

[Agent Z]

Okay, I must have head cannoned them to be regular women. Whenever I think of Golden Age Amazons I go to Wonder Woman #9 and in that issue they kind of are just an all-woman tribe.

I would prefer it if they were regular women though. They don't gain anything from being created, if anything, it takes a lot of things away. If they're created beings then their value system and achievements matter less.

I reread the pertinent content from Wonder Woman #1 and the story just has some issues. How does Aphrodite elevate women by creating a stronger, distinct form of woman? This also conflicts with some later Golden Age stories where Amazons are shown to be stronger because of their training. (This is probably another reason why I thought the amazons were just normal people. Its the same sort of logic I apply to Wonder Woman's current powers and how they make no sense, since she's still a demi-god, but in Rebirth she receives her powers from the gods, meaning she is essentially a demi-god with no powers. [Though maybe if one is desperate enough, they can claim the gods "unlocked" her powers])

Most demigods in Greek mythology didn't inherit any powers. Achilles himself was born of a sea goddess and only received powers after he was dipped in the River Styx.

[Pinsir]

Most demigods in Greek mythology didn't inherit any powers. Achilles himself was born of a sea goddess and only received powers after he was dipped in the River Styx.

That's true, but Wonder Woman comics were never a 1 for 1 duplicate of Greek mythology (If it were, Hippolyta would be dead). Just in the context of Wonder Woman stories alone, it is implied that you get powers from being a demi-god. Her siblings have super powers derived from being demi-gods (Jason, Hercules, Lennox) and in the New 52 run, she does too.

Then again, Cassie Sandmark got her powers because original Zeus gives them to her, but later its revealed that she is his daughter (though this is probably a retcon).