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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Yeah, it seems there were four possibilities on that story.

    It could be that Bernie knows that he clearly said that no woman can be President. In that case, he's lying and shouldn't be President.
    It could be that Bernie forgot that he clearly said that no woman can be President. In that case, he shouldn't be President because of the implications (it's careless or worse.)
    It could be that Bernie didn't say that no woman can be President, and Warren made it up. In that case, she's lying and shouldn't be President.
    It could be that Bernie didn't say that no woman can be President but Warren interpreted it that way (the argument that this is her truth.) In that case, she can't appreciate nuance and shouldn't be President.
    It's the first one. Bernie isn't stupid, he's been in politics his whole life. He knows how to win.

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    The Republicans have spent so much energy labeling as socialism everything from universal healthcare to preserving the environment to promoting racial equality, that as far as I'm concerned, socialism is looking pretty good right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    I'm not sure there's any point of breaking down that distinction. The people saying it already know the difference, they're saying it for political points or just trolling.
    There is a lot of importance. My dad is a life long Democrat but he’s also a man in his 70s who was raised to believe that socialism=evil. He hates Trump but is having a hard time supporting Bernie. I think there needs to be a definite explanation of the difference between Democratic Socialism and the socialism an entire generation of Americans has been programmed to fear. His campaign needs to make it a talking point and something easily understandable to the average American.

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    Warren continues her front runner status with a strong 4th place showing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Warren continues her front runner status with a strong 4th place showing
    Paul just needs to find some other crazy take to hitch his cart to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    There is a lot of importance. My dad is a life long Democrat but he’s also a man in his 70s who was raised to believe that socialism=evil. He hates Trump but is having a hard time supporting Bernie. I think there needs to be a definite explanation of the difference between Democratic Socialism and the socialism an entire generation of Americans has been programmed to fear. His campaign needs to make it a talking point and something easily understandable to the average American.
    It's making it understandable that will be the hard part. People who want to believe Sanders is the new red scare are going to be hard to convince just by bringing up a chart of definitions. IT just feels like there are a lot of words in politics that don't have any real meaning, everyone thinks they mean something different. It's frustrating. But I guess Bernie can't afford to just ignore it like I can. I hope he has a good pitch lined out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    LOL Chris Matthews is comparing Sanders winning Nevada to the fall of France to the Nazi's. Delusional
    Yeah, 4 more years of Trump will probably cause more deaths than the fall of France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Eye roll emojis.
    People who just like to watch the world burn: putting Republicans in power since November 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Warren continues her front runner status with a strong 4th place showing
    As I showed earlier, Paul might have been right if not for early voting.

    Is it true that this caucus only had a 4% turnout, as Andrew Yang said on CNN? That's more depressing than the result, if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    Yeah, 4 more years of Trump will probably cause more deaths than the fall of France.
    If he starts a war.

    Things aren't that bad yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superbat View Post
    If he starts a war.

    Things aren't that bad yet.
    He does not need a war. 4 more years of Trump will make climate change irreversible, which lead to a holocaust unlike any war we've seen.

    But you go "vote your consciencen".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    He does not need a war. 4 more years of Trump will make climate change irreversible, which lead to a holocaust unlike any war we've seen.

    But you go "vote your consciencen".
    Climate activists have said Bernie's plan is the only one that can stop climate change.

    That's why Sunrise endorsed him.

    That's who I'll be voting for in the general.

    P.S. You're one of the posters that has been tearing into the front runner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    As I showed earlier, Paul might have been right if not for early voting.

    Is it true that this caucus only had a 4% turnout, as Andrew Yang said on CNN? That's more depressing than the result, if true.
    Turnout was higher than 2016.

    "More than 70,000 people went to the polls this week in early voting for the Nevada caucuses, nearly eclipsing the total number of voters in the state's 2016 caucuses. The surge comes as many voters focused on the issue of health care, which may have benefited Sen. Bernie Sanders. Nevada Public Radio's Joe Schoenmann joins Hari Sreenivasan with more."

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/re...evada-caucuses

    "Turnout could break the 2008 record, The Nevada Independent’s Jon Ralston says. Among things I want to know: How many new voters? And how many Latinos?"

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...*-updates.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    As I showed earlier, Paul might have been right if not for early voting.

    Is it true that this caucus only had a 4% turnout, as Andrew Yang said on CNN? That's more depressing than the result, if true.
    You posted one precint.
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