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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    Rosa Luxumberg continues to focus on the wrong target, I don't like Mayor Pete but its mind boggling to say that while Trump's president.
    Trump represents the worst in American politics too, and to a greater degree.

    No one person is going to represent everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    Nobody would want to go back to being poor obviously, but there is definitely a feeling that, now that the country has amassed a lot more wealth and is relatively free of foreign influence, a return to Marxist policies wouldn't lead to mass starvation and would indeed produce a more egalitarian society with more robust safety nets. Not quite Denmark or Sweden maybe, but something better than what they have now. This is also the supposed goal of the ruling party as well, the whole plan was that the market reforms would always be a temporary means to amass more capital, but that this would eventually herald a return to true socialism, presumably with better results now that there are more resources to go around. Fat chance of that ever happening of course, it's far more likely that the left wing in China will only re-emerge after the current economic model collapses under the weight of its own contradictions and all the money that was meant to be redistributed is already gone. And in that case, going back to doctrinaire Marxism would probably lead to mass starvation once again.
    Again, who is saying this? I've not heard any of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    As for Russia, they have some mostly legit elections in the immediate aftermath of the fall of the USSR, but the country was just in such poor shape for most of the 90s that the entire Yeltsin era and the fling with democracy is largely looked at as a lost decade that nobody really wants to think about anymore. Part of the reason Putin is actually a lot more popular than you might think at home is because the people wanted someone to rein in the power of the oligarchs, and Putin has certainly managed that.
    I know, but op was talking about Russia NOW.

    Putin reigned in power of the oligarchs in that he controls them, but they're still obscenely wealthy and powerful. I'm sure he was in people's good books for just the former though. People do like a strongman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    QUOTED. FOR. TRUTH! God, he's just like Corbyn, far more popular outside his party than within. And yes, based on the Bernie Bros, who could blame the centralists for not liking what he "inspires"? Even now are the Bernie Bros being nice on Pete's Twitter page. HA! Are they, margaret! (I don't think that's a phrase...)
    lol I saw that. #PeteToBernie was also trending and totally not fake...

    I don't know why they're pretending. Do they think Buttigieg supporters won't remember they were posting rat emojis a day ago? That no one will notice they're still calling him a rat and making weird homophobic comments about him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    As always, you'll make almost any argument to try to defend Sanders.

    Griff was never featured in any popular songs for Public Enemy -- Flav did Cold Lampin, 911 is a Joke, and was backup vocals on a lot of PE tracks.



    So it is "really the case".
    Worst song on the album.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Worst song on the album.
    Nope, Cold Lampin is a classic, along with 911 is a joke -- Can We Get a Witness, Mind Terrorist, and Prophets of Rage are all worse tracks.

    Regardless, it's clear that Sanders is the worst "Democrat" for uniting people and every post you -- and other Sanders supporters -- make proves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post
    lol I saw that. #PeteToBernie was also trending and totally not fake...

    I don't know why they're pretending. Do they think Buttigieg supporters won't remember they were posting rat emojis a day ago? That no one will notice they're still calling him a rat and making weird homophobic comments about him?
    Their hostility towards other candidates,, no doubt amplified by eager rat$@#@ing is definitely not helping them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    Nope, Cold Lampin is a classic, along with 911 is a joke -- Can We Get a Witness, Mind Terrorist, and Prophets of Rage are all worse tracks.

    Regardless, it's clear that Sanders is the worst "Democrat" for uniting people and every post you -- and other Sanders supporters -- make proves it.
    Mind Terrorist is a short interlude, which doesn't count.
    Ah yes, this clearly proves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Mind Terrorist is a short interlude, which doesn't count.
    Ah yes, this clearly proves it.
    Whatever it is, it's clear you'd attack Flavor Flav just to support Sanders, regardless of the views and opinions of others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Their hostility towards other candidates,, no doubt amplified by eager rat$@#@ing is definitely not helping them.
    Bullies are insecure, but get braver with perceived success -- expect even more of this kind of behavior if Sanders starts losing his "jumpstart" lead.
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    rick dominguez (he/him/his)
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    Well #TeamPete, I’m still very sad. But I’m also excited to now support the only one left who can excite my generation, bring progressive policies to the forefront, and most importantly beat Trump. I’m supporting @BernieSanders! @People4Bernie#BernieBeatsTrump #BernieSanders2020

    https://twitter.com/rickd95/status/1234271233803522049

    Kodi Gaddis
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    @PeteButtigiegwas who I supported for the nominee; however, with him suspending his campaign I am now voting for @BernieSanders. We need a candidate who & and will defeat @realDonaldTrump- that is Bernie.

    I urge those who also supported Pete to support Bernie.

    #ThankYouPete

    https://twitter.com/KodiGaddis/statu...65309390897152

    Pete dropping out is going to change things up on ST. Biden and Bernie will gain the most of his voters and it will split by generations, the younger supporters will go to Bernie and the older to Biden. Texas could go to Biden now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    Sanders even divided Public Enemy.

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    "Public Enemy Fire Flavor Flav After Bernie Sanders Rally Spat"

    “Public Enemy announced they are permanently “moving forward” without Flavor Flav, firing one of hip-hop’s most memorable hypemen after more than 35 years. The abrupt dismissal comes just two days after the rapper sent a cease-and-desist letter to Bernie Sanders over Chuck D’s concert at the campaign’s Los Angeles rally Sunday.

    “Public Enemy and Public Enemy Radio will be moving forward without Flavor Flav,” the hip-hop legends said in a brief statement Sunday. “We thank him for his years of service and wish him well.””


    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...anders-960272/
    "Taking to Twitter Sunday afternoon, Chuck D clarified that the Sanders issue was not the only reason the group fired the hypeman. “My last straw was long ago,” he wrote. “It’s not about BERNIE with Flav… he don’t know the difference between [former NFL running back] Barry Sanders or Bernie Sanders. He don’t know either. FLAV refused to support Sankofa after Harry Belafonte inducted us. He don’t do that.” Sankofa, a grassroots organization founded by Belafonte, aims to, as they note on their site, “focus on issues of injustice that disproportionately affect the disenfranchised, the oppressed, and the underserved, which left unaddressed will continue to impact the lives of too many individuals and remain a scar on our nation’s moral character.”

    Legal issues had been simmering between Flavor Flav and his fellow Public Enemy bandmates for years, when Flavor Flav sued Chuck D and the group’s business management firm in 2017 over unpaid profits. “This action involves the usurpation of money and property rights from Plaintiff William J. Drayton, known as ‘Flavor Flav,’” the suit stated. “Despite Drayton’s position in Public Enemy, the group’s management and related companies have for years attempted to minimize his role in the Public Enemy business, while continuing to rely upon Drayton’s fame and persona to market the brand.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    Whatever it is, it's clear you'd attack Flavor Flav just to support Sanders, regardless of the views and opinions of others.
    That was just an off-topic comment (of course that's something in my position would say blah blah). I just didn't really like that track when I listened to the album even before this situation.
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    Buttigieg's exit is better for Biden than Sanders

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/02/p...sis/index.html

    (CNN)Pete Buttigieg's exit from the presidential race adds another wrinkle to the Democratic contest ahead of Super Tuesday. The exact effects of the former South Bend, Indiana, mayor's departure, along with Joe Biden's blowout victory in South Carolina, are unknowable.

    Still, it's pretty clear that Buttigieg getting out likely helps the former vice president and hurts Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

    Let's start with the simple fact that Biden has been hovering around the 15% threshold for delegates in a number of states, including the huge Super Tuesday delegate prize of California. Biden was at 13% in a CNN/SSRS poll conducted there. Buttigieg was at 7%. If Biden gets two points of that 7%, it could make all the difference in the world to him. That alone could net Biden dozens or more of delegates.

    Sanders doesn't have that problem. He's likely at or above 15% nearly everywhere on Super Tuesday. Even if he got more of Buttigieg's pie than Biden in different states, it wouldn't do him a lot of good.

    Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is also right near the 15% threshold in California. If just a few Buttigieg supporters go to Warren, it means she may gain enough ground to reach 15%, when she might not have otherwise. More delegates won by Warren means she sticks around longer. A lot of her supporters describe themselves as very liberal, much like Sanders'.

    Moreover, more candidates hitting the 15% threshold increases the chance that no one receives a majority of delegates. Hence, another way to read Buttigieg getting out is that it's good news for those who wish for a contested convention.

    Given that Sanders is likely to win fewer superdelegates on a second ballot (when they're allowed to vote), this is again bad news for Sanders. It's good news for Biden, who has the support of a lot of elected officials who are superdelegates.

    But let's dig a little deeper: There are good reasons to think that Biden will do better than Sanders with Buttigieg backers. Beyond the mere fact that Buttigieg made it clear in his speech Sunday night that he doesn't think Sanders is the right choice for president, the data suggests it too.

    Buttigieg voters don't look like Sanders' backers, ideologically speaking. Very liberals were consistently Buttigieg's worst group. In South Carolina, just 4% of very liberals voted for Buttigieg. In Nevada, it was 8%. Even in Iowa and New Hampshire, where Buttigieg did well overall, he did more than 10 points worse with very liberals than he did with moderates.

    That's a pattern similar to Biden's. In South Carolina on Saturday, Biden did 14 points better with moderates than very liberals. A little over a week ago in Nevada, Biden's support was 13 points higher with moderates than very liberals. In fact, in every contest, Biden has done better with moderates than very liberals.

    Sanders, of course, exhibited the opposite pattern. In every state, his best group was very liberals. He did at least 17 points better with them than moderates in each contest so far. Often, he'd do near 30 points or even better with very liberals than moderates.

    Still, I don't want to make too big a deal of this ideological breakdown. Buttigieg was only polling in the low double digits at this point nationally, and not every Buttigieg supporter goes to Biden. Buttigieg, like

    Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Warren, was winning votes primarily from white Democrats. Indeed, a Quinnipiac University poll from early February (long before Biden won South Carolina) found that Klobuchar and Warren were actually more likely to be the second choice of Buttigieg backers. (That said, there is more recent data to suggest Buttigieg backers are more likely to consider voting for Biden than any other candidate. Just like the Quinnipiac poll, they're far less likely to consider Sanders than Biden.)

    I do want to emphasize that with a lot of delegates being decided soon, every vote counts. Putting it all together, Biden should be far more pleased with Buttigieg dropping than Sanders is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    That was just an off-topic comment (of course that's something in my position would say blah blah). I just didn't really like that track when I listened to the album even before this situation.
    It's one of my favorites -- life isn't all seriousness, gloom and doom, and anger, even in the worst of circumstances.

    The bigger point is that Flav is a part of Public Enemy and this isn't something that should happen over political differences regarding Sanders.
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    If you really care about the issues you espouse, focus your efforts on beating Republicans, not other Democrats and "moderates".

    Even if Sanders takes office, he's still going to need Democratic allies to pass legislation.

    While you sit here and argue about the artistic merits of Cold Lampin, Republicans are the ones closing down polling stations.

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    "Texas closes hundreds of polling sites, making it harder for minorities to vote"

    "Guardian analysis finds that places where black and Latino population is growing by the largest numbers experienced the majority of closures and could benefit Republicans.

    "The closures could exacerbate Texas’s already chronically low voter turnout rates, to the advantage of incumbent Republicans. Last year, Texas led the US south in an unenviable statistic: closing down the most polling stations, making it more difficult for people to vote and arguably benefiting Republicans.

    A report by civil rights group The Leadership Conference Education Fund found that 750 polls had been closed statewide since 2012.

    Long considered a Republican bastion, changing racial demographics in the state have caused leading Democrats to recast Texas as a potential swing state. Texas Democratic party official Manny Garcia has called it “the biggest battleground state in the country”.

    The closures could exacerbate Texas’s already chronically low voter turnout rates, to the advantage of incumbent Republicans. Ongoing research by University of Houston political scientists Jeronimo Cortina and Brandon Rottinghaus indicates that people are less likely to vote if they have to travel farther to do so, and the effect is disproportionately greater for some groups of voters, such as Latinxs.

    “The fact of the matter is that Texas is not a red state,” said Antonio Arellano of Jolt, a progressive Latino political organization. “Texas is a nonvoting state.”

    In 2012, there was one polling place for every 4,000 residents. By 2018 that figure had dropped to one polling place per 7,700 residents. A 2019 paper by University of Houston political scientists found that after the county’s transition to vote centers, more voting locations were closed in Latinx neighborhoods than in non-Latinx neighborhoods, and that Latinx people had to travel farther to vote than non-Hispanic whites.

    Some counties closed enough polling locations to violate Texas state law. Brazoria county, south of Houston, closed almost 60% of its polling locations between 2012 and 2018, causing it to fall below the statutory minimum, along with another county. In a statement, Brazoria county clerk Joyce Hudman said the closures were inadvertent, and that this would not happen again in 2020.

    A Guardian analysis based on that report confirms what many activists have suspected: the places where the black and Latinx population is growing by the largest numbers have experienced the vast majority of the state’s poll site closures."

    The analysis finds that the 50 counties that gained the most Black and Latinx residents between 2012 and 2018 closed 542 polling sites, compared to just 34 closures in the 50 counties that have gained the fewest black and Latinx residents. This is despite the fact that the population in the former group of counties has risen by 2.5 million people, whereas in the latter category the total population has fallen by over 13,000."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...losures-voting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    Ha! I love it when people just prove my point. Look at the venom. It's hard to believe this is the same poster who gleefully mislabelled LGBT+ people. I'm just so shocked how much inner animosity you clearly have for gay men, shocked I say!
    ‘gleefully mislabels LGBT+ people’

    Honey, I jokingly called you(a gay man) queer *gasp*

    Admittedly, it was bitchy and I’m sorry but you can drop the narrative that I’m some monster who uses the wrong gender pronouns for shits and giggles.

    As a gay man, it’s a bit strange to see some gays gushing over Buttigieg - a homonormative moderate liberal - like he’s the second coming of Harvey Milk. I’ll admit Pete does have a nice aesthetic. We could do worse than a model minority with pretty platitudes. Unfortunately, I actually have to live in the US and Pete’s policies won’t help me pay my bills.

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    An empty soul that bucks and jives to the tunes of his billionaire donors. He stood for nothing but feeding his ambition.
    Ditto

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    Flavor Flav being booted is just a reminder that Bernie Bros don't like independent thought.

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