Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
He asked who I thought was Progressive, not who I want for VP.
Every single person alive has issues.
Ok.

Hell, me living in several countries growing up and by choice and praising them would get some here to denounce me as a foreign agent if I ran for office lol.
I actually like Russia and have been to Cuba... OHHH Scandal. Does that make me an apologist too If I like their educational structure?
Does it make me a Sympathizer because I like their Single Payer system? Or that Cuba came up with treatments for a couple cancers?
How about Russia? If I like Their Transportation system and Medical system?
Context. Sanders has done a whole lot more than that defending Cuba and Russia, and he kept putting his foot in mouth over this repeatedly in the media when any politician worth their salt would have taken then L and shut up about it. You can't just say anything when you're a politician and you definitely don't give Republicans ammunition for the general against you as a Communist sympathiser. It's possible to signal boost other less controversial countries that do socialism. Had Sanders said anything like this about Canada most Democrats wouldn't care.


I lived in Germany, They fought a war against us and had racists and Ethno geneticists murder people.
I lived in Japan for 6 years, and am fond of the Governmental structure there, and I love their healthcare and educational systems.
I lived in England twice for a year and 6 months, am I fond of the King? Drams, lol.
Don't conflate dictatorships with those countries.

Who are these supporters you speak of? Methinks you are trolling.
You mustn't know much about Abrams.

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Nina despises the Democratic party as I do then. I want the party to do better some of you don't. If that is despising then a lot of Independents like me Despise the party.
"Better," right. Tulsi's just saying what Nina wants out loud. I only take what Bloomberg gives reluctantly, I don't embrace it. They're not any better than he is.


I don't care about tribalism, tribalism gave us Trump because the Democratic party wants conservatives and shits on their left base. They take corrupt money and brines, and let in racists like Bloomberg.
Except tribalism is a major component in why you fight for the Left, they are your "tribe." Leftists aren't the Democratic party's base. You support a politician who defended Trump's immigration stance against Muslims!

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-figaro-603410

In a statement out Tuesday, Turner, the group’s president, noted that the comments by Tezlyn Figaro are not held by Turner, or by Our Revolution. On Fox News last year, Figaro cited President Donald Trump‘s “leadership” on the travel ban and said, “We are sick and tired of immigrants coming into the country and getting benefits that Americans do not get … what I’m seeing is not paying taxes, what I’m seeing is getting a lot of freebies that Americans do not get.”
They let people who ACTUALLY sabotage the party like Manchin and DESPISE Sanders for wanting to actually help people. Yeah, I despise the Democratic party too.
Progress requires compromise, like with the Manchin's of the party. People don't like Sanders for numerous reasons and none of it is because he likes to help people, which he's not very good at.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, they can kiss my black ass. I don't vote for letters, I vote for policy.
You "vote" along ideological lines and you certainly don't vote for policy.

I think Sanders probably would have a better shot if he had run as a Republican.
This has to be a joke. lol