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    This from the same party who wasted two years of our time impeaching Bill Clinton.
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    James Le Mesurier: White Helmets backer found dead near his home in Istanbul

    A former British army officer, who helped start the “White Helmets”, an emergency response group in Syria, has been found dead near his home in Istanbul, just days after the Russian foreign ministry menaced him, accusing him of being a spy.

    James le Mesurier, 43, was the director of Mayday Rescue charity that trained members of the Syria Civil Defence, nicknamed the White Helmets, playing a major role in its creation in Turkey in 2013.

    He was awarded an Order of the British Empire for his work helping Syrians three years later.

    The police have yet to confirm how Mr Mesurier died, but he is believed to have fallen from the balcony of his apartment in the Turkish city at dawn on Monday.

    His death comes just three days after he was publicly attacked by Maria Zakharova, Russia's foreign ministry spokeswoman, who on Friday claimed he was a “former agent of Britain’s MI6, who has been spotted all around the world”.
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    this ad is absolutely devastating for Senate Republicans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    You think that whole Supreme Court thing was legit? A guy starts lose credibility with me when they scheme the system to avoid term limits.
    I have no idea.

    If someone is suggesting that the Supreme Court decision wasn't legit, they should make that argument, or link to someone else's take on it, to demonstrate why they have concluded that no reasonable person can come to that judicial conclusion and/ or that the judges were appointed through a process that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

    This could all be socialist conspiracy theories about an ineffective President, but I'm not seeing all the evidence to back that up. I get that it may take a while as there may be limited English language reporting in Bolivia that addresses the on the ground nuances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosa Luxemburg View Post
    A source on what?

    Are you expecting the CIA to come out and admit they're involved in a military coup in Latin America?

    A Socialist leader in Latin America has been ousted by the country's right-wing and you don't think the CIA is involved? Are we going to pretend Operation Condor never happened?
    Do you have sources or not?

    If not, I'll go ahead and stop indulging you here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I have no idea.

    If someone is suggesting that the Supreme Court decision wasn't legit, they should make that argument, or link to someone else's take on it, to demonstrate why they have concluded that no reasonable person can come to that judicial conclusion and/ or that the judges were appointed through a process that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

    This could all be socialist conspiracy theories about an ineffective President, but I'm not seeing all the evidence to back that up. I get that it may take a while as there may be limited English language reporting in Bolivia that addresses the on the ground nuances.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw....erm/a-46622525

    It isnt hard to find links to the fact this guy was doing anti-democratic BS.

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    Have to laugh at the Donnie Jr/Kimberly Guilfoyle romance, which is like a metaphor for Fox News being in bed by surrogate with Donald Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copper View Post
    This from the same party who wasted two years of our time impeaching Bill Clinton.
    Let alone 5 years "investigating" Benghazi purely for political reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Have to laugh at the Donnie Jr/Kimberly Guilfoyle romance, which is like a metaphor for Fox News being in bed by surrogate with Donald Trump
    Never has a book title more fit 2 people than this. Everyone point at fragile Donny Jr and laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    Do you hold Morales accountable to any of his actions that lead to this?

    There seems to be plenty of reasons to not support this person and their behavior in office. Merely being a socialist, in a country America has wrongly interfered with, does not make him innocent or laudable either.
    If you're looking a for a perfect victim of a coup, you're never going to find one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw....erm/a-46622525

    It isnt hard to find links to the fact this guy was doing anti-democratic BS.
    The most undemocratic BS thing he did was getting more votes than his opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjowski View Post
    Do you have sources or not?

    If not, I'll go ahead and stop indulging you here.
    See you in ten years when the CIA's involvement becomes public knowledge, and you act like no one saw it at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosa Luxemburg View Post
    See you in ten years when the CIA's involvement becomes public knowledge, and you act like no one saw it at the time.
    So that's a no, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    So that's a no, then.
    I guess you guys are right, this coup in Latin America has no US involvement.

    For some reason, they decided to sit this one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosa Luxemburg View Post
    I guess you guys are right, this coup in Latin America has no US involvement.

    For some reason, they decided to sit this one out.
    Ambitious generals ARE a thing - while the CIA could be involved, I refuse to go down the tinfoil rabbit hole of insisting they MUST be behind it and no other explanation is even possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    Ambitious generals ARE a thing - while the CIA could be involved, I refuse to go down the tinfoil rabbit hole of insisting they MUST be behind it and no other explanation is even possible.
    Given the history of the CIA, it is more likely they are involved than not.

    This is what they do.

    Is there a chance they aren't involved? Sure, but there's no reason to assume they aren't.

    Pinochet was an ambitious general, and he came into power in a CIA backed coup.

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