All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Bloomberg came in thinking he was going to be Bruce Wayne and just realized he was Thomas Wayne

[Gray Lensman]

Bloomberg came in thinking he was going to be Bruce Wayne and just realized he was Thomas Wayne

I can all but guarantee that if Warren is the nominee there will not be any presidential debates. No way will Trump consent to that kind of an ass kicking.

[Zauriel]

I would rather vote for Amy or Tulsi over Liz Warren.

Warren didn't seem like presidential material. She abruptly switched her positions from progressive to moderate at the last minute. Her health care arguments didn't help much.

[Theleviathan]

I would rather vote for Amy or Tulsi over Liz Warren.

Warren didn't seem like presidential material. She abruptly switched her positions from progressive to moderate at the last minute. Her health care arguments didn't help much.

I think that's deeply unfair. She has waffled on her policies, but they are undoubtedly progressive.

[Tazirai]

I got no problem with protesters. But if you are going to protest, don't wait until the literal last minute.

I agree with this.

Also, Warren won this debate.
Bernie second.
Biden gets a third, for simply not failing.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

I agree with this.

Also, Warren won this debate.
Bernie second.
Biden gets a third, for simply not failing.

Warren won, but Bernie got a godsend in Bloomberg. Literally everyone on that stage was seething that he was there and he was attacked like crazy. This probably was the time for them to all pound Bernie before Nevada and potentially build to a turnaround on Super Tuesday. Bloomberg was basically a lightning rod that took all the steam away. Super Tuesday is so close to SC and that debate that I can't see that swinging things enough in time. You really needed this week to be the start of a trend change.

At least this finally made Warren relevant again. Hopefully she can stick around. Honestly this is probably the last hurah for Pete and Amy.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Also it's very clear that Klobuchar hates Pete and he also made a real effort to confront her tonight. They both know they are fighting for the same lane.

[numberthirty]

Okay, so it is NBC/MSNBC's fault here. It truly is terrible; Chuck Todd should stick to Meet the Press.

In a world anything like "Just...", Chuck Todd would be ring announcing for something along the lines of Smokey Mountain Wrestling.

[Theleviathan]

Also it's very clear that Klobuchar hates Pete and he also made a real effort to confront her tonight. They both know they are fighting for the same lane.

They were both visibly shaken by that final encounter for sure.

[numberthirty]

I thought Bernie was having a good night....but that tact on the capitalism vs. socialism debate was not good for him. I hope, if he's the front runner, his staff works with him on a better response to that. He's not a "socialist" in the evil sense, so why the hesitancy to say he believes in capitalism? He just believes in capitalism with sanity checks.

Almost word for word, dude said to Warren "Stop. Let Me Finish. They Didn't Like A Joke."

[numberthirty]

Warren just said "We Need A Better Pitch Than 'Let's Trade Our Arrogant Billionaire For Your Arrogant Billionaire."

The woman has a point.

[numberthirty]

So every candidate on the stage but Sanders basically said "yeah we'll let the superdelegates mess with it even if the person with the most votes and delegates doesn't get the nom". Yeah that's a recipe for disaster and why about half the country doesn't believe in the process

I just hope it will be something more sensible than that.

Anything that looks even remotely "Slanted..." is just going to look too much like what some of the more "It's What Was Happening All Along..." folks have been saying.

[worstblogever]

Post debate poll on Dailykos has Warren as the clear winner tonight. She has 63% over the whole field.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...dential-debate

[Gray Lensman]

I just hope it will be something more sensible than that.

Anything that looks even remotely "Slanted..." is just going to look too much like what some of the more "It's What Was Happening All Along..." folks have been saying.

For me it's also something a little more complex than a simple yes or no. If one person has 45% and the next two are in the teens, then 45% should get it. But if the leader is at 27% and the next two are 25%, and one of those is the acknowledged second choice of the other two, then it isn't as clear cut.

[numberthirty]

For me it's also something a little more complex than a simple yes or no. If one person has 45% and the next two are in the teens, then 45% should get it. But if the leader is at 27% and the next two are 25%, and one of those is the acknowledged second choice of the other two, then it isn't as clear cut.

In that second scenario?

Do what needs to reasonably be done. Just do it in the most upfront and open fashion that you can. Anything else, and it's going to everyone believes something along the lines of "The Worst..."

I still feel like the race in the General will be too tight for any support you could lose to that.

And, that's on a good day. There's obviously a realistic scenario where it could be Trump's race to lose unless he manages to shoot himself in the foot repeatedly between now and the General. Just that he has actually gained Latino support is not the best sign.