All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[Darkspellmaster]

I mean the most simple comparison of how different they are is the details in the origin.

Kavanaugh has a history of drinking and partying, at an off hours party he got wasted and assaulted Ford. Completely probable (this **** happens all the time with college students) and Kavanaugh is still a drinker.

Meanwhile Reade cant even determine WHERE the assault took place, Bidens history shows him devoted to his wife and never straying and Reade claims she wasnt wearing standard office wear for EVERY women in washington.

The point about the office wear is very true. Washington is known for very business and professional clothing. And, even though DC is in a slightly warmer climate than say NYC, it would be nuts for a lady, and I am one, to not wear nylons during spring. The weather changes frequently so pantyhose would be a plus. And for sure in the early 90s you would absolutely be wearing pantyhose with a skirt. It's just not normal to be bare legged at the time.

[Jack Dracula]

Democrats still insist on playing by the rules. They still follow Michelle Obama's mantra, "When they go low, we go high", something that absolutely does NOT work in the ruthless world of politics where power is everything and all bets are off when it comes to getting same. Democrats keep bringing knives to gun fights and expect the GOP to play nice, well, MY mantra would be this" When they go low, we go lower". It's the only way to wrest control back from Republicans.

That's the problem. Republicans are willing to hit below the belt, bite, and clench. We can talk about playing by the rules, but unfortunately, if the competition doesn't want to play by the rules, then it's not a fair fight. I feel dirty about stooping to the level of the opponent, but Republican voters have no qualms viewing Democrats as corrupt, shameless, and soulless, which has been the agenda the GOP spent decades building the image of. This wasn't something that happened overnight.

Frankly though, I don't think we want a government where hitting below the belt and dirty tricks become the norm. Better to raise the entire field up to a higher moral and ethical plane where our representatives are held accountable and bad behavior has actual consequences. It's the harder road, but good systems are rarely built easily and it promotes stability and fairness in the long run.

[PaulBullion]

Showing how far gone his supporters are. We are seeing an epic meltdown of a President before our eyes. And yet he has not budged from that 40+% approval.

He seems to be the only major world leader with worsening approval ratings during the pandemic. Look at these comparisons:

[PaulBullion]

What happened to believing women? I mean, at this point the story's no more inconsistent than Christine Blasey Ford's.

That is an excellent point except the opposite of what you wrote is true.

[Tami]

What happened to believing women? I mean, at this point the story's no more inconsistent than Christine Blasey Ford's.

Women are not robots, we are not all exactly the same. It's actually insulting to make this kind of comparison. Just as it would be insulting and wrong to say that Every Man is a sexual deviant who sexually assaults women on a regular basis.

Ford and Reade are two different women, just as Biden and Kavenaugh are two different men. You have to look at the facts, at the evidence, and make a judgement just as would be done if this was a court trial.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

I mean the most simple comparison of how different they are is the details in the origin.

Kavanaugh has a history of drinking and partying, at an off hours party he got wasted and assaulted Ford. Completely probable (this **** happens all the time with college students) and Kavanaugh is still a drinker.

Meanwhile Reade cant even determine WHERE the assault took place, Bidens history shows him devoted to his wife and never straying and Reade claims she wasnt wearing standard office wear for EVERY women in washington.

Of course this leaves out the fact that Ford has never said where she was allegedly assaulted. She can not tell you what house this party was at or even generalize the location. She also has been inconsistent on how she got to the party and who was there. She can’t tell you how she got away from the party. Nobody can corroborate that this party happened much less the actual assault allegation. And she never told anybody about this until decades later when he was an accomplished judge who was known as a possible SC candidate. In addition to a dozen or so minor details of inconsistency between multiple statements they just really isn’t worth going into

This doesn’t mean she wasn’t at a party where Kavanaugh could have assaulted her. But you’re taking a lot on faith that this event in a vacuum of extremely relevant details is more credible than Reade’s.

In both cases, they are allegations that would never hold up to any legal level scrutiny.

For the purposes of Biden specifically it’s a terrible way to attack him imo because it’s not vetted at all. And it’s quite frankly unfair to drag him for that. But yeah a lot of people are going to call hypocrisy on people turning a blind eye to this when they put someone they didn’t like through hell for saying something happened without any real tangible details to follow up on.

The people attacking Biden with this should be more responsible and so should the people going after Kavanaugh.

[Jack Dracula]

South Dakota’s governor resisted ordering people to stay home. Now it has one of the nation’s largest coronavirus hot spots.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces state clinical trials of Hydroxychloroquine.

[worstblogever]

Women are not robots, we are not all exactly the same. It's actually insulting to make this kind of comparison. Just as it would be insulting and wrong to say that Every Man is a sexual deviant who sexually assaults women on a regular basis.

Ford and Reade are two different women, just as Biden and Kavenaugh are two different men. You have to look at the facts, at the evidence, and make a judgement just as would be done if this was a court trial.

And I'm gonna go ahead and lead off before any of are right-leaning posters try to do the "you never hold anyone on the left accountable for sexual misconduct..."

And point out John Conyers, Al Franken, and Anthony Weiner sure as f*** did not get propped up by the left. Meanwhile on the right, they'll keep Farenthold in office for years, or approve Kavanaugh, when they could have just nominated anyone else who was worthy.

[worstblogever]

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces state clinical trials of Hydroxychloroquine.

This from the same Governor who gave us the "Meth: WE'RE ON IT" ad campaign.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces state clinical trials of Hydroxychloroquine.

That’s funny because Brazil pulled trials and there is evidence around the world it could be harmful starting to come in

[WestPhillyPunisher]

And I'm gonna go ahead and lead off before any of are right-leaning posters try to do the "you never hold anyone on the left accountable for sexual misconduct..."

And point out John Conyers, Al Franken, and Anthony Weiner sure as f*** did not get propped up by the left. Meanwhile on the right, they'll keep Farenthold in office for years, or approve Kavanaugh, when they could have just nominated anyone else who was worthy.

Fatty Farenthold and Judge Kegger were two of the most egregious examples of the GOP circling the wagons to protect deviants from the justice hammer that deserves to be dropped on their heads.

[Gray Lensman]

I mean the most simple comparison of how different they are is the details in the origin.

Kavanaugh has a history of drinking and partying, at an off hours party he got wasted and assaulted Ford. Completely probable (this **** happens all the time with college students) and Kavanaugh is still a drinker.

Meanwhile Reade cant even determine WHERE the assault took place, Bidens history shows him devoted to his wife and never straying and Reade claims she wasnt wearing standard office wear for EVERY women in washington.

Ford also did not go public - she was dragged out into public by other people. Plus, the 'investigation' the feds did into her allegations were pretty much a joke, as they were forbidden to interview most of the key people of interest.

[Tami]

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces state clinical trials of Hydroxychloroquine.

A Republican Governor. Won't listen to Scientists and Doctors, but will listen to Trump.

[worstblogever]

Fatty Farenthold and Judge Kegger were two of the most egregious examples of the GOP circling the wagons to protect deviants from the justice hammer that deserves to be dropped on their heads.

Oh, I have plenty more examples from the past few years I omitted.

[Gray Lensman]

That’s funny because Brazil pulled trials and there is evidence around the world it could be harmful starting to come in

The trials that looked promising involved some very dodgy data gathering techniques. Only people who completed the entire regimen were counted, thereby missing people who got worse and were moved into ICU or died before the trial was concluded.

Which reminds me of the battle damage study of US fighter planes in WWII that almost resulted in additional armor being placed on the wings and rear fuselage until one person mentioned that they had no data on planes that were shot down, and maybe the lack of damage to the engine and cockpit was because those were the ones that never made it out of Axis territory to be looked at.

Survival bias can be a terrible thing if it isn't accounted for, as it can lead to less survival in the long run.