Learn why American Indians were upset with Warren.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...y-not-cherokee
"Warren depicted this as “slam dunk” proof that she really is of Native American ancestry. This is a base-rate fallacy. In fact, the average white person in America has 0.18 percent Native American DNA — meaning they could be described as about 1/ 556 Native American or as having a Native American ancestor nine to10 generations back. Warren does not seem to have a unique claim to Native American heritage over and above the typical white American.
For comparison: the average U.S. white also has about 0.19 percent African DNA; they can be said to be 1/ 526 black or to have a black ancestor nine to10 generations back. Rachel Dolezal might have about the same genetic claim to being black as Elizabeth Warren does to being Cherokee. Already, memes are circulating comparing the two. Of course, Warren and supporters can make arguments explaining how the two cases are not similar, but this is beside the point. If it has to be explained why or how Warren is substantively different from Dolezal, the war is already lost.
Rather than acknowledging she has no meaningful claim to Cherokee / Native American heritage or identity, Warren has doubled down. She claims to have “won” the bet, and has demanded Trump donate $1 million to the National Indigenous Women’s Resource Center. The president has refused, insisting he won the wager. Unfortunately, he is correct: although Warren did take the test it did not prove she is “an Indian.”
Genes, race and ethnicity are non-identical and the relationship between them is complicated. Warren is phenotypically white. She has no identifiable Native American ancestor, no clan affiliation, and no meaningful connection to Cherokee language, customs or culture. As a result, even if the DNA test had suggested she could meet the 1/16 blood quantum required by Cherokee for a federally recognized Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood(she was nowhere near this) — it would still not have established Warren is “an Indian.”
It was actually impossible for Warren to actually win Trump’s bet: Cherokee do not decide who is (or is not) one of them the basis of DNA; what matters are clan ancestry, tracing one’s genealogy to an ancestor on the “Dawes Rolls,” or being adopted into a clan by a Clan Mother. Elizabeth Warren fails to meet any of these criteria. As a result, she is simply not Cherokee — not even a little. DNA is irrelevant.
This point was powerfully driven home by the Cherokee Nation’s Secretary of State, who described Warren’s attempt as wrong-headed and insulting. He went on to say that Warren is “undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage” (neither Warren nor her team consulted with Cherokee leadership before conducting the test or releasing the results)."
To give her credit, she apologized for it.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/elizabe...nk-11566241904
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I was about to post these very things plus the medicare for all debacle. I don't trust Warren and never will. People can shame me into supporting her all they want I won't do it. Warren is and always has been a con artist who says anything to get elected. At least Biden and Bernie believe in their policies for all their faults.
Last edited by Celgress; 01-14-2020 at 09:27 PM.
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Alright then. I won't shame you. But I gotta wonder...
You see all the BS Republicans are pulling. You see the s**t Trump is doing and easily getting away with. You see a true con artist there. You see a party that is openly fine with locking up and stealing away children. You see a party ready to wage more and more wars, killing more and more troops. You see Republicans and Trump... you see everything they do, say, plan on doing, and so much more.
And after all of this, you see that if it was to come down between Trump and Warren, you wouldn't vote for her and rather him win.
You would look at all the victims of this administration, now and the future, and still wouldn't vote.
Just everything about that mind set is just so sad and depressing. I'm not mad, I feel nothing but pity and sadness for someone like that.
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Hi, I'm french and when I look at this thread I understand that the US are ready to get fucked forever. If you're not able to put aside your quarrels and vote for whoever will be the candidate, wether it is Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg or Biden you can be sure that the conservatives won't have such qualms. And given how the GOP is already cheating, Trump will be reelected. You will all feel dumb when He will turn the SC completely Republican and destroy democracy in the US.
I can't believe I have to explain that again.
Not that I like it! But by looking at the comments you're playing the game of the populists, arguing between yourself instead of banding to fight Trump, then you will weaken the democrat candidate and Trump will be reelected. look at what is happening in UK, mates. The same causes produce the same results.
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