All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[Tami]

Funny, I see it the opposite. Many seemed very much to support Sanders in obvious or subtle ways. But every reporter has his or her own preferences.

[Tendrin]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/polit...ump/index.html
Rush Limbaugh just admitted Republicans have totally abandoned a core party principle

Lol@Cillizza.

[Michael Watkins]

Funny, I see it the opposite. Many seemed very much to support Sanders in obvious or subtle ways. But every reporter has his or her own preferences.

they provided examples

[Michael Watkins]

Lol@Cillizza.

LIMBAUGH: Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus for as long as it's been around.

[aja_christopher]

That's a Young Turks propaganda video about alleged bias against Sanders -- not shooting socialists.

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sand...longer-1477216

You're not even trying to be reasonable in this discussion at this point.

Keep playing the victim if you want to -- it's not going to win your candidate any votes.

[Michael Watkins]

That's a Young Turks propaganda video about alleged bias against Sanders -- not shooting socialists.

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sand...longer-1477216

You're not even trying to be reasonable in this discussion at this point.

Keep playing the victim if you want to -- it's not going to win your candidate any votes.

you can't attack the message. so you go after the messenger. predictable. people can watch the video and decide for themselves. it's not just their opinion. they are showing you the coverage of Sanders on that network.

[aja_christopher]

you can't attack the message. so you go after the messenger. predictable. people can watch the video and decide for themselves. it's not just their opinion. they are showing you the coverage of Sanders on that network.

I don't have to attack the message even if it's remotely true.

Bias against Sanders is not the same as Republicans wanting to shoot socialists.

[Tami]

Jill Biden: As first lady, I'd get rid of Betsy DeVos

When asked about her initiatives if she became first lady, Dr. Jill Biden, says she would get rid of current Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.

[Michael Watkins]

I don't have to attack the message even if it's remotely true.

Bias against Sanders is not the same as Republicans wanting to shoot socialists.

why would it have to be the same? you made the bold claim that Republicans, not moderates, are the enemy of progressives. i simply pointed out that moderates are actively attacking progressives. i could have posted the video about John Kerry's plan to enter the race once Biden blows it; simply to prevent a progressive from getting into office. but i'm waiting for more information on that one.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...nders-n1128476
^there if you're curious

[aja_christopher]

why would it have to be the same?.

It doesn't have to be the same.

It just shows how ridiculous your priorities are when you're comparing alleged bias to being shot for your political views.

If you don't think the Republicans -- rather than Democrats -- are the problem, then we just disagree and I'll ask you to stop arguing with me about it.

Just disagree and move on with your life.

[worstblogever]

On this date in 2015, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of Jim DeMint, who was trying to abolish the IRS as far back as 2004, warned against same sex marriage in 2008 because of the “prevalence of certain diseases amongst homosexuals”, who he also wanted to ban schools from hiring gay teachers out of sheer homophobia. DeMint also wanted to privatize our Social Security system and let the banks handle it, but a few months after they imploded the American economy in 2007. He also blamed the Shoe Bomber on President Obama’s supposed policies of “appeasement”, and used that example as the crux of an argument against unionizingprevalence of certain diseases amongst homosexuals the TSA, falsely claimed on FOX News that President Obama was increasing taxes on Christmas trees out of disdain for Christians, and on another occasion, predicted that “America would not survive” if Obama was elected to a second term as president. He’s also blatantly told lies about figures on healthcare and immigration, tried to ban discussion of abortion over the internet (because that’s worth throwing out the 1st Amendment), and once claimed the federal government played no role in the freeing of the slaves, and it was the Constitution that did so (ignoring how Abraham Lincoln, the founder of his party, had to sign the Emancipation Proclamation). Since stunning Washington insiders with his resignation in 2013, DeMint has been working for the Heritage Foundation.

On this date in 2016, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of Bill Otto, a former member of the Kansas House of Representatives and self-professed "ham" whose deep political thoughts inspired him to create a Youtube channel, from which he could spread his political views as an amateur comedian on the internet. This, however, did little but to spotlight what a bigoted nutter he truly is. While sometimes he would perform his own covers of “Home on the Range”, where he would alter the lyrics to justify his opposition to climate change and moving to use green energy, by October 2009 Otto’s little corner of the interwebs blew up in his face completely, after he posted a video of himself performing the “Redneck Rap”, a scathing criticism of President Obama, while wearing a hat that said, “Opossum, The Other White Meat”. In that song, he began suggesting Barack Obama take prisoners from Gitmo to the IRS to torture them there, and referred to the first African American president as "the other dark meat". Needless to say, the "Redneck Rap" wasn't exactly the soundtrack to 8 Mile. His creative endeavors were not Bill Otto's only signs of mental instability, as he once pretended to reach for his firearm when encountering a fellow state legislator, then chuckled that he was "only kidding" because he thought he was a different member of the legislature who deserved to be shot. Besides that, Otto had two conspiracy theories he floated on the floor of the Kansas state legislature, the first being the threat of the United Nations Agenda 21 conspiracy, and the other being his belief that based on the number of shots during the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone. Bill Otto failed to be elected in 2012 as well as in 2014, and has faded from all relevance.



On this date in 2017, 2018, as well as 2019, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" published its first profile of Mississippi State Senator Lydia Chassaniol, a close ally of former Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, who was first elected to office back in the off-year elections in 2007. She has won re-election twice, in both 2011 and 2015, which is amazing because halfway through her first term in office in 2009, she was a keynote speaker at a meeting of the white supremacist group, the Council of Conservative Citizens. Of course, when confronted about her membership and appearance at the CCC's conference in 2009 by the Southern Poverty Law Center, she responded by trying to assure them the CCC was a “conservative organization.” She also wrote, “I do not consider myself racist.” Chassaniol's speech back in 2009 had the featured topic of “Cultural Heritage in Mississippi.” where she gave a brief history of the state since 1540, opined that the U.S. was in decline, citing as her evidence tributes to Michael Jackson, a “pedophile who’s being celebrated.” She encouraged members of the CCC present to join Tea Party protests, and warning that the government wanted to “take from those who have and give to those who don’t want to work for it” which sounds a lot like a racial dog whistle from where we're sitting. Chassaniol, after injecting white supremacists directly into the blood stream of the Mississippi Tea Party, continued to praise the movement thereafter.

Chassaniol's path to re-election was hardly a sure thing in 2015 after her CCC connections were dragged back to the fore after Dylann Roof's killing spree. Her district is over 27% African American, after all, and she was linked to a group that around election time, was posting eugenics studies to claim that blacks were intellectually inferior to whites. And, while that should be more than enough to display she was a terrible candidate, in January 2015, Chassaniol also led a failed effort by the Mississippi state legislature to become a shadow government that could conduct business behind closed doors. And yet... she won, mostly on the benefit of two factors... the vote was split between her Democratic and Libertarian opponents, and that she received over four times the amount of donations that her opponents did, usually from such tiny little donors as corporate giant Monsanto. (Thanks again, Citizens United decision.) As a legislator, Chassionol has supported GOP voter suppression efforts by supporting stricter Voter ID measures, voted to try and create “covenant marriages” to make it mandatory to take a year of marriage counseling before someone could be granted a divorce, and has repeatedly gone all-in on anti-abortion efforts and anti-LGBTQ legislation.

in 2018, she voted for legislation to allow the gas chamber, electric chair, and firing squad to be brought back as potential methods of execution in Mississippi, and while she seems opposed to having the LGBTQ community protected by hate crime legislation, she co-sponsored legislation that would deem targeted attacks on law enforcement as a hate crime. At least she’s consistent about being a terrible bigot.

Regrettably, Chassaniol was allowed to run for re-election in 2019 unopposed, and thus gets four more years to be a not-so-subtle part of the GOP’s growing build towards being an outright white nationalist party.
 

[Tendrin]

LIMBAUGH: Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus for as long as it's been around.

That doesn't make Cillizza any less terrible, which is all I was commenting on.

[Michael Watkins]

It doesn't have to be the same.

It just shows how ridiculous your priorities are when you're comparing alleged bias to being shot for your political views.

If you don't think the Republicans -- rather than Democrats -- are the problem, then we just disagree and I'll ask you to stop arguing with me about it.

Just disagree and move on with your life.

you're both the problem. see how easy that was?

[Michael Watkins]

That doesn't make Cillizza any less terrible, which is all I was commenting on.

oh, i can agree to that. i just know that people generally don't read. so i added the relevant quote.

[aja_christopher]

you're both the problem. see how easy that was?

Not at all -- I'm not even a Democrat, so now you're just blindly trying to pick fights.