You backed Biden. He turned out to be a loser. Move on.
You backed Biden. He turned out to be a loser. Move on.
So who does the have the best chance of doing just that?
If its Biden, why did he place fourth in Iowa?
You always seem to say that its Bernie supporters ''job'' (a job which we do not get paid for, so its volunteer work I guess, which is not a job) to explain why Bernie is the best choice, but what's your job here? To sit on the sidelines and make snarky comments about Bernie Bros and then bemoan the vileness of Trump without articulating who has the best chance of beating him and why? Because that seems like something that is easy and beating Trump will take more hard work than that.
If Bernie is not the best choice to beat Trump, who is and why? If you can't answer that question, what are you doing? Shouldn't you have an argument on who is the best choice to defeat Trump and explain why, if you actually want to defeat him? All the candidates are not Trump, so you need more than that to appeal to others.
For all these comments about Bernie's supposed sexism and racism (is there is any of proof of this beyond hearsay and guilt by association?) is Biden's record towards the African American community that great?
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cratic-primary
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-incarceration
Last edited by The Overlord; 02-07-2020 at 05:54 PM.
if Iowa and New Hampshire were the be all and end all of the Democratic Primaries, then why bother voting if you are from every other state?
I still haven't made up my mind, and I still don't see a true front-runner.
I'm happy to wait and see what happens by Spring.
It ain't over til the Fat Lady votes in June.
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When it comes to Biden, I just don't have a lot of use for the "What Has Sanders Won?" if folks are not following that up by asking themselves...
- Has Biden Ever Even Been Competitive In The Democratic Party Nomination Process?
- When Was The Last Time Biden Won An Election Strictly Under His Own Steam?
Didn't Biden lose massively in the 1988 Democratic primary? How is he the most electable again? This most electable argument comes across as the ultimate paper tiger.
https://www.businessinsider.com/plag...un-1988-2019-3
Guy -- you really need to chill out and stop lying and intentionally trying to aggravate people.
I don't back Biden -- I'm just pointing out the obvious fact that if you don't give black voters a candidate to back in the general election, the Democratic party is most likely going to lose.
Sanders is who turned out to be a "loser" last time around -- mainly because he didn't "inspire" black voters -- yet Sanders' supporters refuse to even address that, for obvious reasons.
Just because you refuse to address those weaknesses -- and who the Democratic party really needs to win elections -- doesn't change the facts.
Again -- back off and stop lying on people and trying to start fights, or at the very least address the points raised in your response.
Last edited by aja_christopher; 02-07-2020 at 06:21 PM.
And how is Biden not a loser?
https://www.businessinsider.com/plag...un-1988-2019-3
Even the vice-president status can't save Biden. Maybe he will withdraw from the race after South Carolina primary.
I never said anything about Biden not losing -- I pointed out that Sanders lost, or rather Hillary won, due to Sanders' lack of African-American support.
Talking about Biden -- and every other candidate you want to attack -- does not address that basic fact about Sanders' campaign and why he lost in 2016.
Nor how he will motivate African-American voters to show up for him in a general election.
The case Buttigieg or Biden has is more pull in swing states and to swing voters. It's what Buttigieg said in his victory speech.
Like all strengths and weaknesses for each candidate, the primaries are our testing grounds. So far Biden is failing, Sanders is steady, and Buttigieg is surging. But that could all change in a night.
Mike Bloomberg won the Iowa caucuses
When Mike Blloomberg was mayor of NYC, he ran as a Republican. This is the guy who banned sodas and guns in the NYC. He needs more things to sell to the voters than his gun control stance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg
Except you seem to be unwilling to take an actual stand on who is the best choice to run against Trump and why? Sitting on the sidelines and just criticizing is easy, actually defending something concrete requires real hard work.
If you do not Bernie is the best choice, then explain who would be better and why. I can at least why some people would like Warren as the best choice (still not my first choice, but certainly would be my question), but I have not heard why a concrete argument on why Biden or Mayor Pete would be the best choice.
If Third Way politics has not failed, why did it fail to prevent Trumpism?