All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[PaulBullion]

This should be headlines everywhere.

He is just beginning his revenge tour.

It continues:
Trump fires Gordon Sondland, the second impeachment witness to be removed from his post Friday


(pretty disappointing journalism behind that link, sorry. making it look as if Trump's impeached offenses are of similar importance as Hunter Biden's job)

One of Biden's stronger moments in this debate was

We should have pinned a medal on Vindman, not on Rush Limbaugh!

[PaulBullion]

I never said anything about other candidates not losing -- I said that Sanders can't win without African American support in the primaries or the general election, something you refuse to address directly.

And Sanders just drove half his African American support away by endorsing racist Rogan.

[PaulBullion]

Not feeling the bern, but smelling the bengay.

[PaulBullion]

There is no other moderate with more African-American support than Bernie.

Biden is 1st and Sanders is 2nd.

MAJORITY OF BLACK VOTERS SAY THEY COULD VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS IN THE 2020 ELECTION

https://www.newsweek.com/majority-bl...ection-1482343

"The Vice News/Ipsos Poll found that 56 percent of African American voters said that they would possibly vote for Sanders, a statistical tie with the 54 percent who said they might vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, who has been topping the polls for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. The poll was conducted between January 8 and January 10 among 2,013 U.S. adults

The poll also found that Sanders had an even wider lead over Biden among Hispanic Americans. When asked whom they would consider voting for in the election, 47 percent of Hispanic respondents said they might back Sanders, while 37 percent said the same for Biden."

Again, old news. A link was posted earlier that showed his support among black voters was CUT IN HALF after the Rogan embrace.

[PaulBullion]

What worries me is that Sanders supporters don't see through the game Republicans are playing.

You have some of the most right wing GOP clowns defending Sanders against the mean old DNC. They want Sanders as Trump's opponent so badly. Because they are sitting on attacks that will be VERY efficient in those swing states to turn people off Bernie. Attacks that his Democratic primary opponents won't touch because they have decency. But Sanders would be annihilated in the general elections. This is America, a nation of puritans. ´

The video of Bernie partying with Soviets in his underwear will be everywhere.

Data miners will target Hispanics with the Sierra Blanca Nuclear waste story, Blacks and LGBTQs with the Joe Rogan embrace story, Christians with stories about Sanders being Jewish. Not saying they won't try similar things with the other candidates, but it will be easiest with Sanders, because he just has too much baggage and he is too far removed from the American electorate's "gut feelings."

[PaulBullion]

I am speechless.

[numberthirty]

What worries me is that Sanders supporters don't see through the game Republicans are playing.

You have some of the most right wing GOP clowns defending Sanders against the mean old DNC. They want Sanders as Trump's opponent so badly. Because they are sitting on attacks that will be VERY efficient in those swing states to turn people off Bernie. Attacks that his Democratic primary opponents won't touch because they have decency. But Sanders would be annihilated in the general elections. This is America, a nation of puritans. ´

The video of Bernie partying with Soviets in his underwear will be everywhere.

Data miners will target Hispanics with the Sierra Blanca Nuclear waste story, Blacks and LGBTQs with the Joe Rogan embrace story, Christians with stories about Sanders being Jewish. Not saying they won't try similar things with the other candidates, but it will be easiest with Sanders, because he just has too much baggage and he is too far removed from the American electorate's "gut feelings."

This is just plain foolishness.

While Biden has had his moments where he has been on the right side of things, the guy has a pattern where he went to bat for creditors while his son was getting a check from them/Biden got involved when his son was getting a check for a job he was seemingly unqualified for.

Never mind that it looks like they are about to take run at investigating the son who was involved in both instances.

That's setting aside the other "Left Of The Dial" money moves that are in Biden's past that plenty folks are aware of.

To top all of that off, Biden has no real answer for it outside of challenging that guy to a pushup contest that one time.

So, yeah.

The idea that Sanders is going to be the easiest one to pick off? You've got to ignore a lot of stuff to even start to buy into it.

All that is covered in what's laid out above is that single aspect of Biden's record.

- We haven't even touched on that he said "I Trusted George Bush." at last night's debate.

- We haven't even touched on a whole bunch of other things that are complete "Fish In A Barrel..." knocks on Biden.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The Democrats the last near 30 years always won with youthful candidates. Ones that captured the people saying how they could see the excitement they had. Clinton and Obama both were ripped on for not having experience. Obe was a Governor and the other a 1st time Senator.

Pete follows that trend. So as big a risk it is giving the nomination to a 37 year old Mayor who will get gay bashed by Trump supporters....do it. He's the future of the Democratic party.

Other young candidates could emerge if he doesn't win in 2020. Or maybe Pete runs again and gets it. Or heck....maybe in some crazy way he wins

[numberthirty]

Past that...

That bit about the Christians that Sanders wasn't going to get because he is a Jew?

Hilarious.

Keep those coming.

[Zauriel]

The Democrats the last near 30 years always won with youthful candidates. Ones that captured the people saying how they could see the excitement they had. Clinton and Obama both were ripped on for not having experience. Obe was a Governor and the other a 1st time Senator.

Pete follows that trend. So as big a risk it is giving the nomination to a 37 year old Mayor who will get gay bashed by Trump supporters....do it. He's the future of the Democratic party.

Other young candidates could emerge if he doesn't win in 2020. Or maybe Pete runs again and gets it. Or heck....maybe in some crazy way he wins

Clinton was 46 years old when he was elected. Obama was 47 years old when he was elected. Kennedy was 43 years old when he was elected.

[Superbat]

That poll was taken between January 20 and January 26. The Rogan stumble happened on the 24th, so fallout had barely begun for a minority of people polled.

No one cares about the Rogan endorsement.

Look at any recent poll that shows the candidates LGBTQ support. Sanders still runs circles around Pete.

Look at the polls your link cited. Bernie's favorability among African-Americans didn't crater. What the writer of that article didn't mention was he was comparing the 1st choice for nominee. Bernie and Biden's fall can be explained by Bloomberg's rise.

Bernie's favorability among African-Americans is still almost the same. The writer had to omit information to make it look like Sanders was losing support.

[Superbat]

I am not a Mayor Pete supporter. Just presenting a theory on why Sanders did so much worse in Iowa than predicted before he embraced Rogan.

Your whataboutism, knee-jerk reaction are not effective debating.

Bernie did not do so much worse in Iowa. He won the popular vote by 1000s.

The reason he is tied with Pete is because Biden under performed and his voters went to Pete. In the 1st count Bernie and Warren were ahead of Pete.

[Gray Lensman]

The Democrats the last near 30 years always won with youthful candidates. Ones that captured the people saying how they could see the excitement they had. Clinton and Obama both were ripped on for not having experience. Obe was a Governor and the other a 1st time Senator.

Pete follows that trend. So as big a risk it is giving the nomination to a 37 year old Mayor who will get gay bashed by Trump supporters....do it. He's the future of the Democratic party.

Other young candidates could emerge if he doesn't win in 2020. Or maybe Pete runs again and gets it. Or heck....maybe in some crazy way he wins

The issue with Pete is the only person running with lower support among black voters is Trump. After the debate he might be in danger of being the guy they stay home over on election day if he manages to win the nomination.

[Billy Batson]

The Democrats the last near 30 years always won with youthful candidates. Ones that captured the people saying how they could see the excitement they had. Clinton and Obama both were ripped on for not having experience. Obe was a Governor and the other a 1st time Senator.

Pete follows that trend. So as big a risk it is giving the nomination to a 37 year old Mayor who will get gay bashed by Trump supporters....do it. He's the future of the Democratic party.

Other young candidates could emerge if he doesn't win in 2020. Or maybe Pete runs again and gets it. Or heck....maybe in some crazy way he wins

A youthful guy with boomer politics, lol

[worstblogever]

On this date in 2015, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" ran a profile of Leo Berman, a former member of the Texas House of Representatives who in 2010 went on Glenn Beck to declare Barack Obama was "God's punishment on us" and needed to be a one-term president. He also was a Birther, once getting humiliated about the conspiracy on CNN by Anderson Cooper over it on air. Berman also was the driving force behind trying to pass anti-Sharia Law legislation in Texas, insisting that Dearborn, Michigan was being taken over by Muslims, and feuding with former Gov. Rick Perry at the time for the governor being perceived as "too lenient" about it.

On this date in 2017, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” had its original profile of conservative political pundit and failed Congressional candidate Katrina Pierson, who you probably know as "that one Donald Trump surrogate who gave Kellyanne Conway a run for her money in being full of s***". Well, here's what you might not know... Katrina Pierson was actually a candidate for U.S. House of Representatives in the 2014 elections, challenging Congressman Pete Sessions in the GOP Primary for his seat representing Texas' 32nd Congressional District. Now, rest assured, that since she emerged as a Tea Party operative, Katrina Pierson has said some truly demented things, placing her in a category of “totally bananas” usually reserved for places owned by the Chiquita corporation. We note she was caught shoplifting $168 in clothes from a J.C. Penney in Dallas, Texas back in 1997, and as late as 2008 stated that her political hero was Malcolm X, because Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was "too moderate". She became disenchanted with President Obama, however, because she saw pictures of him where "he wasn't wearing a flag pin", enamored of Donald Trump as a candidate because of his anti-Islamic views, which Pierson agrees "preys on the weak and uses political correctness as cover". (She might want to read a little more about Malcolm X's religious background, frankly, if he's still her "idol".) In ]July of 2011, Pierson taught classes to the Waco Tea Party about the threat of the United Nations Agenda 21 Environmental Treaty being a secret plan for global conquest. By January 2012, Pierson began illegally collecting $11,400 in unemployment earnings while working for the U.S. Senate campaign of Ted Cruz. During the 2012 presidential campaign, Pierson referred to President Obama as “the Head Negro in Charge”, and gave key analysis on Twitter, like, "Perfect Obama's dad born in Africa, Mitt Romney's dad born in Mexico. Any pure breeds left?" (She actually doubled down and said “half-breed” isn’t a slur because she considers herself a "half-breed", too) and as the final days of the election approached, broke down the Romney vs. Obama choice as “#2012 Choice: Mormon or Jihadi #clear enough?" Pierson also has told the gay community that they hill never have “acceptance, but you could win coexistence”, and that ”Gay is not normal, accept that." She then had her ill-conceived attempt at a Congressional seat thwarted in 2014, only to emerge in 2015 working as an in-studio spokeswoman for the Donald Trump campaign, and in one of her first appearances on CNN, she argued in favor of an unconstitutional ban on all Muslims because, and we quote, "So what? They're Muslim!" In December of 2015, Pierson went on Fox News to defend a lackluster answer by Donald Trump about the nuclear triad while asking, without irony, "Why have nuclear weapons if you're afraid to use them?" After an appearance on cable news where Katrina Pierson was mocked for wearing a necklace made out of shotgun shells, she lashed out at her fashion critics in the less-than-sane demeanor on Twitter that she had already begun making herself infamous for, when she responded, "Maybe I'll wear a fetus next time& bring awareness to 50 million aborted people that will never ger to be on Twitter". As the GOP Primary continued, she began questioning the true citizenship of Sen. Marco Rubio on CNN, and later tried spinning the blame for Humayun Khan’s death in Iraq in 2004, while Obama was still just a state legislator in Illinois. After being used in a less high profile role for the campaign after that last spectacular gaffe, Pierson turned up in 2017 as part of a Pro-Trump advocacy group called "America First Strategies" (cleverly named after the American Nazi movement from 75 years ago), where she will fight against "biased media coverage" against Donald Trump by going on Fox News and well… being bats*** crazy like how only about a week after the violence in Charlottesville propagated by Neo-Nazis, she went on Fox News to join a debate about Confederate monuments and declare that slavery is “good history”. The odds of her ever reaching elected office seem null enough that we’re going to set her profile aside today, to get back to a previous CSGOPOTD from this date…