All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[Billy Batson]

He wants to expand Medicare, tax the rich more, decrease the defense budget, and relieve federal student loans. Can you explain where this aligned with Lenin?

Edit: Also there’s exactly one Democrat who polls better nationally than Sanders, so why do you think that there’s more Democrats that prefer him over nearly everyone else? Are the fascists or communists?

Right now he's the best polling one with Biden freefalling.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Wealth Redistribution and fully publically funded political parties, for starters

But you believe whatever you want to believe, good day.

Warren wants to raise taxes on rich. She also wants Medicare for All. Is that communist?

Obama used tax dollars to implement the ACA? Is that communist? Biden by his own words wants to expand on that. I’d he communist?

Multiple candidates have said they support some form of reparations. That’s by definition wealth redistribution? Are they communists?

I’ll believe in reality you can keep making none arguments.

By your own definition the entire West is communist right now

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Sure he is.

Funny thing is, the guy behind the attempted coup in Venezuela was asked about AOC and after doing some research on her, he said she wasn't that radical or a Socialist, but a Social Democrat.

[Celgress]

Right now he's the best polling one with Biden freefalling.

Indeed he is.

[Tami]

Just remember a vote for Sanders means you will have his cultists at your door for life.

I've said it before, Sanders is not on my list. If he should happen to win the nomination, I might have to vote for him, but until then there are plenty of other candidates to chose from.

[Celgress]

Funny thing is, the guy behind the attempted coup in Venezuela was asked about AOC and after doing some research on her, he said she wasn't that radical or a Socialist, but a Social Democrat.

I never brought up AOC.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Funny thing is, the guy behind the attempted coup in Venezuela was asked about AOC and after doing some research on her, he said she wasn't that radical or a Socialist, but a Social Democrat.

That’s because if you placed Sanders or AOC in Europe they’d at best be center left, really just center. The United States is just one of the most right wing countries in the West

[Celgress]

Warren wants to raise taxes on rich. She also wants Medicare for All. Is that communist?

Obama used tax dollars to implement the ACA? Is that communist? Biden by his own words wants to expand on that. I’d he communist?

Multiple candidates have said they support some form of reparations. That’s by definition wealth redistribution? Are they communists?

I’ll believe in reality you can keep making none arguments.

By your own definition the entire West is communist right now

I don't have time to educate you. Read the books I listed. Have a good day.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

I never brought up AOC.

She and Bernie are on the same level.

Seems like she's moving to the left of him, and already is on some issues.

[Zauriel]

If Bernie or Warren wins the nomination, how will either of them be able to woo the moderate and independent voters? They need something else to sell than their "tax the wealthy" plan.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

I don't have time to educate you. Read the books I listed. Have a good day.

No you have to educate yourself. As someone with actual degrees studying precisely these topics, I hope you don’t actually talk like this in public so you don’t embarrass yourself in real life. That’s not me even mocking you. It’s me giving you constructive criticism.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

If Bernie or Warren wins the nomination, how will either of them be able to woo the moderate and independent voters? They need something else to sell than their "tax the wealthy" plan.

Bernie does well with independents. Always has.

Turn that question around, there are around 20% of Democrats they have been consistently with Bernie. How will Biden get them? If he doesn’t he loses. Pete polls horribly with POC’s. How will he win them? How will he get any religious Democrats and swing voters? Klobuchar has never been in better than 4th? Where is the situation she builds a coalition to win with

[Celgress]

She and Bernie are on the same level.

Seems like she's moving to the left of him, and already is on some issues.

Okay, I'll lay it on the line. AOC is a naked Communist as well, IMO.

Also, I don't care what the guy from Venezuela says about her or anything else. His opinion carries no weight with me. I've studied at the feet of giants such as Hoffer & Lifton so I think I know a thing or two about political extremism.

I've gone far enough down this rabbit hole. I'm done. Sorry, but some of you remind me of Trump supporters in your devotion to Sanders and how you twist or ignore facts to suit the cause.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

I've studied at the feet of giants such as Hoffer & Lifton so I think I know a thing or two about political extremism.

Ok, but you're still wrong.

I've gone far enough down this rabbit hole. I'm done. Sorry, but some of you remind me of Trump supporters in your devotion to Sanders and how you twist or ignore facts to suit the cause.

I'm not devoted to Sanders.

I think he sucks.

[Celgress]

No you have to educate yourself. As someone with actual degrees studying precisely these topics, I hope you don’t talk like this in public so you don’t embarrass yourself in real life. That’s not me even mocking you. It’s me giving you constructive criticism.

Everyone I've talked to about this subject says I am one of the most knowledgeable people they've ever encountered. At least I provided links to evidence for my assertations. The opinion of a faceless person on the Internet is of no consequence.

I knew I said I was done with this but I cannot allow your personal insult to stand without rebuttal.