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    He sure doesn't hesitate to demonstrate what idiots people like Senator Collins are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    That’s actually a textbook straw man. His validity is that he has the best ideas, has consistency, has a broad coalition especially with the youth that Dems desire to come out and he can succeed.
    That's a big weakness of Sanders, older voters are more reliable as a voting bloc. Younger voters are what puts candidates over the top, not be the bedrock of their coalition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    That's a big weakness of Sanders, older voters are more reliable as a voting bloc. Younger voters are what puts candidates over the top, not be the bedrock of their coalition.
    Yes they are reliable voters but didn't younger voters show-up in bigger numbers in the midterms than older voters? If Sanders turns out more younger voters that older bloc can be outvoted.

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    Say whatever you want about the candidates and how they were impacted, the public relations and appearance of total incompetence alone demanded heads roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofali View Post
    Yes they are reliable voters but didn't younger voters show-up in bigger numbers in the midterms than older voters? If Sanders turns out more younger voters that older bloc can be outvoted.
    More young voters turned out than usual for a midterm, but still not a bigger number. They had higher numbers relative to their usual terrible rate of showing up. But when they did increase their participation, it was jumped on by the Sanders and Justice Democrat folks as evidence of what to do in 2020. Of course, when I point this out, analyze numbers from IA and NH, and point out the problems with that thinking...it's a bogus point to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    More young voters turned out than usual for a midterm, but still not a bigger number. They had higher numbers relative to their usual terrible rate of showing up. But when they did increase their participation, it was jumped on by the Sanders and Justice Democrat folks as evidence of what to do in 2020. Of course, when I point this out, analyze numbers from IA and NH, and point out the problems with that thinking...it's a bogus point to make.
    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    Buttigieg trailing Bernie by only 4% in NH is another win for him. I expected something like a 8-12% margin, especially given Bernie's performance in the same state in 2016.

    Klobuchar is an obvious winner, she went from "should drop out" to viable campaign. The results are mostly good, but some bad for Bernie. Good in that going into Super Tuesday there are at least three serious moderates splitting votes and Biden still lingering. The bad....three (four if you count Biden) moderates are splitting votes and he isn't generating the separation you'd expect in that scenario. The exit info on tonight is going to be interesting.
    https://www.rollcall.com/2020/02/10/...lege-students/

    New Hampshire voting law bewilders college students
    Democrats and advocates say they’re worried the law might prompt college students to sit out Election Day
    A New Hampshire law tightening the rules around residency is spurring confusion in the state that hosts the country’s first primary Tuesday, with Democrats and advocates saying they’re worried the law might prompt college students to sit out Election Day.

    “College towns are trying to minimize the effects of this, but it’s always hard to tell with students,” says Linda Fowler, a Dartmouth College government professor.

    In 2018, the Republican-controlled legislature passed the law, which redefined resident and domicile to have the same meaning. Proponents of the law say it matches those in every other state and won’t impact voting.

    The new law comes on the heels of Republican complaints over the 2016 Senate election victory of Democrat Maggie Hassan over Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte by only 1,017 votes out of 738,620 cast. In 2017, Kris Kobach, vice chairman of a since-disbanded presidential commission on voting fraud, said it was “likely” that more than 5,000 out-of-state voters had illegally tipped the scales in favor of the Democrat. New Hampshire’s secretary of state said there was no proof for that claim.

    State officials released a letter in November clarifying the effect of the law, saying it means registering to vote triggers residency requirements under the motor vehicle code. That gives registrants 60 days to change a driver’s license if they drive in New Hampshire and to change their vehicle registration if they’re the owner.

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    In an ongoing case, the American Civil Liberties Union is suing on behalf of two Dartmouth students, alleging the law acts as a poll tax in the form of car registration fees and that it puts a burden on students, young people and new voters.

    The law’s sponsor, state Rep. Sherman Packard, says his intent was to restrict voting to residents, which is in line with laws in every other state. He expects no impact in election results.

    In the town at the center of the ACLU’s lawsuit, though, Hanover Town Clerk Betsy McClain says messaging around the law has been confusing and some students have gotten the false impression that they need a state driver’s license to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    He sure doesn't hesitate to demonstrate what idiots people like Senator Collins are.
    Now, now, be kind, IM. Any day now, Madam Pearl Clutcher will express deep concern and write a stern letter expressing her displeasure over Trump.
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    With Yang and Patrick dropping out of the race that means that like Tulsi Gabbard is the last POC running in the primary, right? And she isn't even viable (or good for the job even if her numbers were decent). Wow would have not seen this coming. I actually expected Harris to last the longest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofali View Post
    Yes they are reliable voters but didn't younger voters show-up in bigger numbers in the midterms than older voters? If Sanders turns out more younger voters that older bloc can be outvoted.
    I call BS on any claim that younger voters outnumbered older voters, especially in percentages. There was a tangible and significant increase among younger voters, but the olds maintained and built on their majority.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/4/26/185166...turnout-census
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    That's a big weakness of Sanders, older voters are more reliable as a voting bloc. Younger voters are what puts candidates over the top, not be the bedrock of their coalition.
    There’s two theories on that. Older voters are more reliable but they turn out no matter what so you can take them as givens and go for the people that put you over the top, or you need to shore them up

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    Both Tom Steyer and Mike Bloomberg are rich enough that they can afford to run in the next primaries without wealthy donors.

    Tulsi Gabbard? I don't know. But I think she is stubborn.

    Yang, Bennett and Patrick withdrew because the donors must have pulled the plug on their campaigns.

    If I were Biden I'd drop out of the race.

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