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    NBC and MSNBC or as I call them MSDNC or MSDCCC really despises Sanders so much, they forgot how voting works...

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    LITERALLY Not how voting works, lol.

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    He trounces the others, but he's hit his "CEILING". When it comes to moderates, I just expect them to vote in the general. I don't care in the Primary.
    If Sanders is your nominee, vote for him. Just like we're always asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    It's still better having a President and then getting a chance to fight for the Senate in the midterms
    True, but there are concerns about what the top of the ticket might do to those races. It's anecdotal, but there is a lot of chatter here in Arizona that best chance McSally has to beat Mark Kelly is having Bernie at the top of the ticket. The AZ Republicans nearly branded Sinema a socialist enough to beat her and Bernie potentially rolls out that red carpet for them.

    The Dems could flip Gardner, McSally, Tillis and have an outside shot at a few others. It doesn't necessarily have to be part of a primary voter's thinking, but it is a real thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    You seem to love defending the centrists and the establishment. Do you care to post their attacks on us Bros (I guess there are no Bernie Girls, considering his support comes from Minorities and women, Ignore us huh?).
    I'm a liberal, we have a large following in the Democratic party. "Bernie Bros" started with angry, young, white progressive men who made hit lists on Democratic staffers ad politicians and threw abuse online at anyone they saw as a threat to Sanders run in '16. Sure there are, Bernie Bros are all inclusive in their douchebaggery. Didn't stop them from making racist or sexist attacks on other women or minorities. Some of the earliest targets of the Bernie Bros were women.

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    A frequent target is Joan Walsh, a national affairs correspondent for the Nation, who is supporting Clinton for president, though the magazine has endorsed Sanders. “They never stop, and you wind up on Twitter trying to convince a BernieBro that BernieBros exist -- and even as he’s being Exhibit A, he’s calling you a whore, $hill, sellout and on and on,” she said in a direct message on Twitter.

    Please be honest in your posting if the Bros are bad what about the Warren women, the Khive, and Boot edge edge boys? I guess the Establishment is so sophisticated they only attack us on the air, in Newspapers, digitally, and lie on TV. But that's okay. Because the Establishment is right? I guess you'll be defending Bloomberg next against us bros? Lol.
    There is no "if," doxxing, sexism and hurling abuse at people is bad. You're right that other candidates have their own terrible people, who deserve to get blasted for their activities. What separates them from the Bernie Bros is that the Bros have a larger profile going after everyone and I've never heard of those groups wanting hit lists on Democratic politicians, the press and more.

    Edit: Do you have any evidence of those groups terrifying people at the DNC or Democratic politicians? We have for the Bros.

    Bloomberg's a piece of shit, but nobody deserves that. There's nothing progressive about being abusive.




    The WOKE crowd ousted a comedian, Al Franken, from the Democratic party, but they love them some Bloomie.
    Nobody "woke" likes Bloomberg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    I'm a liberal, we have a large following in the Democratic party. "Bernie Bros" started with angry, young, white progressive men who made hit lists on Democratic staffers ad politicians and threw abuse online at anyone they saw as a threat to Sanders run in '16. Sure there are, Bernie Bros are all inclusive in their douchebaggery. Didn't stop them from making racist or sexist attacks on other women or minorities. Some of the earliest targets of the Bernie Bros were women.

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    There is no "if," doxxing, sexism and hurling abuse at people is bad. You're right that other candidates have their own terrible people, who deserve to get blasted for their activities. What separates them from the Bernie Bros is that the Bros have a larger profile going after everyone and I've never heard of those groups wanting hit lists on Democratic politicians, the press and more.

    Edit: Do you have any evidence of those groups terrifying people at the DNC or Democratic politicians? We have for the Bros.

    Bloomberg's a piece of shit, but nobody deserves that. There's nothing progressive about being abusive.



    Nobody "woke" likes Bloomberg.
    I can't read it, because of the pay wall, BUT I'm glad you quoted it and it had JOAN Fuckin WALSH in the wording. LMAO!
    Because you do know how SHE started the shitstorm tossed atr her right?

    See Establishment types love to attack then play the victim when people like us fight back. They lied about us n Nevada in 2016 and there is literally no evidence of Supporters attacking women of color, because women of color are Bernies largest support base as it was THEN and now.

    Joan Walsh to Young Bernie Sanders Supporters: Get Off My Lawn
    Walsh’s anger sounds like a diatribe against a rude, “barely shaving,” teen for not properly respecting his elder.



    Well considering that more Hillary Supporters voted Trump than Sanders, but sure "HE" hurt her... lol.

    Joan Walsh: "Secret Clinton Voters" More Likely Than "Secret Trump Voters"


    So SHE can attack , but can't be held accountable? Lol.

    Bernie Sanders Is Hurting Himself by Playing the Victim
    The Vermont senator could turn from movement leader into the messiah of an angry white male cult with his claims of a “rigged” nomination process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    I can't read it, because of the pay wall, BUT I'm glad you quoted it and it had JOAN Fuckin WALSH in the wording. LMAO!
    Because you do know how SHE started the shitstorm tossed atr her right?

    See Establishment types love to attack then play the victim when people like us fight back. They lied about us n Nevada in 2016 and there is literally no evidence of Supporters attacking women of color, because women of color are Bernies largest support base as it was THEN and now.
    A Black woman reporter got this response.

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    While thankfully, I have someone who works for me and wades through much of my mail and social media so I can spend as much time as possible writing (and maintaining my sanity and sense of humor), for more than a week Sanders supporters flooded my accounts with nonstop accusations—one more over the top than the next. I am “a disgrace,” “a liar,” a secret paid Hillary Clinton “mole” or “shill.” Apparently it is beyond the realm of possibility that I, as a free-thinking individual with access to polling data and a fairly vigorous intellect of my own may not consider their chosen candidate a strong one. Simply not possible. After all, as one white Sanders supporter informed me: “You need to be better informed on the needs of black people.” Thanks for the tip!

    But there were a couple of messages that made their way to me that were particularly troubling. One Sanders supporter pleaded on Facebook for others to stop attacking me and try to “inform me.” (Again this denotes I couldn’t possibly be educated because I don’t agree with them, but at least he sounded civil.) To which another replied, “She chooses to ignore the issues and work for her own personal interest. If that is the case then to me everything is allowed as long as it’s not physical violence.”

    Consider that statement for a moment.
    Having minorities and women in his group aren't proof that they're won't make sexist or racist attacks.

    That was silly of her to phrase it like that but it's hardly death threats to the Nevada Democratic chairwoman in '16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4saken1 View Post
    Most of the pundits that I heard realistically knew the outcome of the Senate races, especially since there were 24 Democrat seats up in the air and only 9 Republican ones. This year, there are 11 Democratic held seats and 21 Republican ones. Of course, many of those Republican seats are in deep red states.....
    Granted, these early "experts" I referenced were from CNN so there is that. CNN tends to be more hyperbolic than most networks and often downright wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    NBC and MSNBC or as I call them MSDNC or MSDCCC really despises Sanders so much, they forgot how voting works...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre..._npd_nn_tw_mtp

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    LITERALLY Not how voting works, lol.

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    This is the exact same way they talked themselves into thinking that Trump wasn't viable. Voters aren't binary ideologically. If Biden or Buttigieg or Klobuchar drop out, then some of those voters just won't show up for their primaries and some will still go to Sanders. It's not like they are all going to go in uniform to the next centrist. In fact, we already know alot of Biden voters have Warren and Sanders as their second choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    True, but there are concerns about what the top of the ticket might do to those races. It's anecdotal, but there is a lot of chatter here in Arizona that best chance McSally has to beat Mark Kelly is having Bernie at the top of the ticket. The AZ Republicans nearly branded Sinema a socialist enough to beat her and Bernie potentially rolls out that red carpet for them.

    The Dems could flip Gardner, McSally, Tillis and have an outside shot at a few others. It doesn't necessarily have to be part of a primary voter's thinking, but it is a real thing.
    It's so hard to predict that though. Like here's the thing, if Bernie wins big then it's the best shot they have at the Senate anyways. Republicans made a similar argument with Trump, that he would hurt down ballot. But he won and the voters he brought voted R down ballot and preserved the majorities for Republicans. Yeah if Bernie costs them Arizona, it hurts down ballot Democrats, but that's true of any candidate.

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    Only five days until the Nevada caucus. Bernie Sanders lost Nevada in 2016. Will he win Nevada this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    NBC and MSNBC or as I call them MSDNC or MSDCCC really despises Sanders so much, they forgot how voting works...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre..._npd_nn_tw_mtp

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    LITERALLY Not how voting works, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    This is the exact same way they talked themselves into thinking that Trump wasn't viable. Voters aren't binary ideologically. If Biden or Buttigieg or Klobuchar drop out, then some of those voters just won't show up for their primaries and some will still go to Sanders. It's not like they are all going to go in uniform to the next centrist. In fact, we already know alot of Biden voters have Warren and Sanders as their second choice
    It's Chuck Todd and it just so happens that he left out a pretty specific law the applies to young voters had changed since 2016.

    Yep. Shocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zauriel View Post
    Only five days until the Nevada caucus. Bernie Sanders lost Nevada in 2016. Will he win Nevada this time?
    Right now RCP has Nevada at

    Sanders 26.0
    Biden 17.0
    Warren 13.3
    Buttigieg 11
    Steyer 9.7
    Kobuchar 7.7
    Gabbard 1.5

    That's a massive swing considering like a week ago Biden was winning it until a week or so ago. In fact, Biden won every reputable Nevada poll except one from last March until this month. He does not want to eat 3 losses going into SC where he is slowly losing ground. If that happens people there will be looking for a winnable alternative

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    Right now RCP has Nevada at

    Sanders 26.0
    Biden 17.0
    Warren 13.3
    Buttigieg 11
    Steyer 9.7
    Kobuchar 7.7
    Gabbard 1.5

    That's a massive swing considering like a week ago Biden was winning it until a week or so ago. In fact, Biden won every reputable Nevada poll except one from last March until this month. He does not want to eat 3 losses going into SC where he is slowly losing ground. If that happens people there will be looking for a winnable alternative
    Nevada polls so weirdly that those numbers may very well shift again the next poll. Only the final vote tally will tell for sure. Nevada has 3 things that make polling very difficult to pull off.

    1 - a highly transient population relative to other states.

    2 - a higher percentage of night shift workers. If you don't space your polls out around the day, you've discounted a large segment of the population.

    3 - a somewhat recent shift from a primary back to a caucus. Less than 2% of eligible voters might participate, especially because you need the day off in order to caucus as opposed to just a few hours (or less) to vote.
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    Given Sanders' /general /overperformance in Caucus states, I wouldn't be surprised if he took it this time.

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