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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
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    Sanders is an Independent. If he wins the Primary, is there an argument to be made that 'Okay, Bernie, you won but since you are an Independent and not a Democrat, you can take on Trump as an Independent in the General. However only a Democrat can represent the Democratic Party, so that means the one who came in 2nd place will represent the Democratic Party and it will be a 3-way General Election.'
    Well the first problem with that is that the Democrats let him go through the primary process so it's kind of shitty to do that and then say we arbitarily disqualifed you at the end. The second point is that it would probably be the end of the Democratic Party. It's a move that is a guaranteed loss for them because Bernie would significantly split the votes with the Dems. Also I don't know if the Democrats really want a generation of young voters who run the gamat from male, female, white, black, hispanic, lgbt, straight etc to think you cancelled out their voice.

    You can do it but you are basically saying "we'd rather Trump be President and we are okay crippling ourselves in the future". Also it would wreak havoc down ballot because the split would have a lot of pissed off Bernie voters abstaining from supporting Democrats, who if he was the Democratic nominee they'd likely vote down ballot for.

    It would be a complete **** show and a way to basically say they don't care about a wing of the party they pretend to include.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Strange thought

    Sanders is an Independent. If he wins the Primary, is there an argument to be made that 'Okay, Bernie, you won but since you are an Independent and not a Democrat, you can take on Trump as an Independent in the General. However only a Democrat can represent the Democratic Party, so that means the one who came in 2nd place will represent the Democratic Party and it will be a 3-way General Election.'
    Doing so would be conceding the election to Trump. Whoever wins the Nomination is already looking a close race with the *******, splitting the democratic vote would be suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Strange thought

    Sanders is an Independent. If he wins the Primary, is there an argument to be made that 'Okay, Bernie, you won but since you are an Independent and not a Democrat, you can take on Trump as an Independent in the General. However only a Democrat can represent the Democratic Party, so that means the one who came in 2nd place will represent the Democratic Party and it will be a 3-way General Election.'
    Well, if he wins the Democratic nomination, then he's a Democrat as far as the General election is concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Strange thought

    Sanders is an Independent. If he wins the Primary, is there an argument to be made that 'Okay, Bernie, you won but since you are an Independent and not a Democrat, you can take on Trump as an Independent in the General. However only a Democrat can represent the Democratic Party, so that means the one who came in 2nd place will represent the Democratic Party and it will be a 3-way General Election.'
    It is a strange thought, because obviously if whoever placed second tried to run anyway it would split the vote and hand the election to Trump. In fact, Bernie is doing the Dems a favor by participating in the primary and not just playing the spoiler as a third party candidate, and he didn't jump back after losing the primaries in 2016 and we can be sure he won't this time around either. Can't say the same for any of the moderate clowns though, especially Bloomberg. There are sore loser laws in place to prevent this sort of thing, but the implementation varies by state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
    Doing so would be conceding the election to Trump. Whoever wins the Nomination is already looking a close race with the *******, splitting the democratic vote would be suicide.
    Yeah, that would be a lose-lose proposition all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    Well the first problem with that is that the Democrats let him go through the primary process so it's kind of shitty to do that and then say we arbitarily disqualifed you at the end. The second point is that it would probably be the end of the Democratic Party. It's a move that is a guaranteed loss for them because Bernie would significantly split the votes with the Dems. Also I don't know if the Democrats really want a generation of young voters who run the gamat from male, female, white, black, hispanic, lgbt, straight etc to think you cancelled out their voice.

    You can do it but you are basically saying "we'd rather Trump be President and we are okay crippling ourselves in the future". Also it would wreak havoc down ballot because the split would have a lot of pissed off Bernie voters abstaining from supporting Democrats, who if he was the Democratic nominee they'd likely vote down ballot for.

    It would be a complete **** show and a way to basically say they don't care about a wing of the party they pretend to include.
    Perhaps your right, but still if Bernie wins it means that there is no Democrat in the WH and the President is usually the leader of the party. So, that creates it's own set of issues.

    Not sure I agree with letting Sanders run in the Democratic Primary to begin with, though I understand why it was done. And it's too late to turn back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Perhaps your right, but still if Bernie wins it means that there is no Democrat in the WH and the President is usually the leader of the party. So, that creates it's own set of issues.

    Not sure I agree with letting Sanders run in the Democratic Primary to begin with, though I understand why it was done. And it's too late to turn back.
    If Sanders wins he would be winning the nomination as a Democrat and running as the Democratic nominee. The difference is that he would probably make the more progressive wing of the party the leadership (so more AOC etc).

    Here's the deal, if you didn't want him to run as a Democrat, then you should have said no at the start and dealt with whatever his next move was. They won't do that. They like that he caucuses with them, they like that he votes with them, they like that he brings his supporters with him when it comes to support in other races, etc. You can't let him and his supporters go through this process and change the rules last minute. Because most of his supporters are in fact Democrats and you don't want to lose them forever because you couldn't hold up your end of the deal.

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    LOL Chris Matthews is comparing Sanders winning Nevada to the fall of France to the Nazi's. Delusional

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    Independent people don’t really take their political cues from the people that work on their favorite make believe characters
    Paul TRULY doesn't understand how politics works.
    Also, a person fighting to win an election is a bad thing now that it's Sanders?
    That's why we fight them. Because they care about civility and power, not people.


    Also, Here's Chris Matthews being an ass again.

    MSNBC's Chris Matthews Suggests Four More Years of Trump Might Be Better for Democratic Party Than Sanders Winning White House
    "This is what happens when you and your network are in a complete panic-riddled meltdown."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    LOL Chris Matthews is comparing Sanders winning Nevada to the fall of France to the Nazi's. Delusional
    Here's the video.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-ma...rmany-in-1940/

    I have a question for the moderates and centrists here.
    If Bernie is winning the majority of the votes, that means more people want HIS path to victory and HIS ideas for change.
    Why are you against the will of the people?

    Also, MSNBC is getting SMASHED online for their despicable coverage.

    ‘I am disgusted and sickened’: MSNBC blasted for the network’s coverage of Nevada Caucuses
    Published 2 mins ago on February 22, 2020

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    MSNBC had a white women on to basically say that latinos were voting for Bernie Sanders because their kids were manipulating their parents who don't speak English to vote for him lololol. You can't make this **** up. I always knew if he took the lead you'd get the absolute most delusional takes from the people that clamored for civility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    Here's the video.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-ma...rmany-in-1940/

    I have a question for the moderates and centrists here.
    If Bernie is winning the majority of the votes, that means more people want HIS path to victory and HIS ideas for change.
    Why are you against the will of the people?

    Also, MSNBC is getting SMASHED online for their despicable coverage.

    ‘I am disgusted and sickened’: MSNBC blasted for the network’s coverage of Nevada Caucuses
    Published 2 mins ago on February 22, 2020
    The best part is this **** only helps Bernie Sanders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Strange thought

    Sanders is an Independent. If he wins the Primary, is there an argument to be made that 'Okay, Bernie, you won but since you are an Independent and not a Democrat, you can take on Trump as an Independent in the General. However only a Democrat can represent the Democratic Party, so that means the one who came in 2nd place will represent the Democratic Party and it will be a 3-way General Election.'
    Why are you guys so caught up on tribalism?
    There are Democrats like Manchin, Donnelley, McCaskill who vote with the GOP all the time. Why don't you blast them for not representing us? Or is Tribalism and the D next to a name more important than the policies?

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