All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[Theleviathan]

The Auto Industry would be my first guess. Current and former auto workers feel disillusioned by the decline of the industry and favor anyone who claims she or he can make their lives "better".

Probably a good explanation. I'm surprised Biden doesn't have similar numbers. I'm also curious about Warren's edge in Arizona, that stands out to me as well.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

And have higher morals, at least publically. Lex Luthor divested from his business empire.

I can’t recall if Tony Stark divested when he became director of S.H.I.E.L.D.

[numberthirty]

Thoughts?

My first reaction....Bernie has an edge in Michigan but not Biden? That....really makes me want to dig into why that would be.

Probably because some of the assumptions you make are on shaky ground.

[Theleviathan]

Probably because some of the assumptions you make are on shaky ground.

*Checks Biden polling numbers* I think you misplaced that criticism.

Remember when you said Biden wasn't as strong in swing states? That's fun. We can rehash that...or we can just have a conversation on the interestint merits. Or I can remind you about your stupid, baseless unicorn again for the fifth time. I'd prefer the interesting merits, but if you want to look like a clown again that's on you.

[Mister Mets]

Thoughts?

My first reaction....Bernie has an edge in Michigan but not Biden? That....really makes me want to dig into why that would be.

Biden's still even in Michigan, and leads a little with likely voters. Sanders leads by two points more.

Sanders did do really well in the Michigan primary, so it could be a combination of a message that resonates there and some really good local news a few years back.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ichigan-upset/

Biden outperforms Sanders in the other states.

Oddly, Sanders is pretty weak in Arizona, the one state where Warren outperforms him, as well as in North Carolina, where he's tied with Warren.

[Mister Mets]

Twitter won’t autoban neo-Nazis because the filters may ban GOP politicians April 26, 2019

According to the link, Twitter denied the statement by an employee.

Twitter told Motherboard that this statement from the employee “is not [an] accurate characterization of our policies or enforcement — on any level.”

[Jackalope89]

The Spectator suggests that some whistleblowers have reported that Kushner gave Mohammed bin Salman the green light to arrest Jamal Khashoggi, and that Turkey has been blackmailing the Trump administration with recordings of the phone call.



Whether the story is true or not, it does seem to be speculated on, which has implications.

Yeah, saw this elsewhere. If there's meat to this story, that's pretty damning.

[jetengine]

According to the link, Twitter denied the statement by an employee.

I believe an employee more then I do a hackneyed corporate line.

[mogwen]

His argument seems to be that there was no quid pro quo, and if there had been a quid pro quo, there still wouldn't be anything wrong with it.

More like if there is a quid pro quo! He's preparing his audience for the inevitable truth by saying it's normal, that's his line of defense from the beginning, hence Mulvaney's "Get over it!".

[numberthirty]

Biden's still even in Michigan, and leads a little with likely voters. Sanders leads by two points more.

Sanders did do really well in the Michigan primary, so it could be a combination of a message that resonates there and some really good local news a few years back.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ichigan-upset/

Biden outperforms Sanders in the other states.

Oddly, Sanders is pretty weak in Arizona, the one state where Warren outperforms him, as well as in North Carolina, where he's tied with Warren.

"Well, Duh..." is about the most logical way to put that one.

The guy with the progressive ideas who won that primary in the past based on support for those progressive ideas seemingly has more support than a guy who is basically "Democratic Business As Usual..."

Mind blower if I've ever seen one.

[numberthirty]

*Checks Biden polling numbers* I think you misplaced that criticism.

Remember when you said Biden wasn't as strong in swing states? That's fun. We can rehash that...or we can just have a conversation on the interestint merits. Or I can remind you about your stupid, baseless unicorn again for the fifth time. I'd prefer the interesting merits, but if you want to look like a clown again that's on you.

As for that, please quote the post.

What I actually said is that Biden is probably every bit as weak with certain parts of his own base(never mind voters in a General) as HRC ever was.

If there is some sort of polling that shows Biden being stronger than Warren/Sanders among younger members of the Democratic Party base, it shouldn't be all that hard to dig up.

[Mister Mets]

"Well, Duh..." is about the most logical way to put that one.

The guy with the progressive ideas who won that primary in the past based on support for those progressive ideas seemingly has more support than a guy who is basically "Democratic Business As Usual..."

Mind blower if I've ever seen one.

It's relevant that what helps Sanders in Michigan isn't helping in other states Democrats need to take back from Trump.

[numberthirty]

It's relevant that what helps Sanders in Michigan isn't helping in other states Democrats need to take back from Trump.

Which doesn't really change that why Sanders would while Biden wouldn't isn't exactly some mystery that requires an investigation.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

A Brazilian indigenous land defender has been killed in an ambush by illegal loggers in an Amazon frontier region.

According to a statement by the Brazilian Indigenous Peoples Association, Paulo Paulino Guajajara was shot and killed inside the Araribóia indigenous territory in Maranhão state. Another tribesman, Laércio Guajajara, was also shot and hospitalised and a logger has been reported missing. No body has yet been recovered.

[Mister Mets]

Which doesn't really change that why Sanders would while Biden wouldn't isn't exactly some mystery that requires an investigation.

My comment was in response to someone asking about the polls.

We shouldn't assume that everyone else is so knowledgeable about the specifics of electoral politics to have come to a relatively nuanced conclusion about one candidate's strength in a particular swing state. It's also entirely possible that someone else has the same information we do, but has reached a different conclusion.

And it's relevant in the discussion to consider that while Sanders is doing better than Biden in Michigan, he's doing worse in Arizona, New Mexico, Florida, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.